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From: Dave Cohen on 23 Mar 2010 23:41
On 3/23/2010 2:49 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus
>>>> (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using
>>>> commercial antivirus protection?
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>> One of the claims of the Linux crowd is that such problems are
>>>> legion. But talking so some of the people at alt.comp.anti-virus I
>>>> get the impression such problems are rare.
>>>>
>>>> Who is more right?
>>>
>>> So the estimate that around 30% of all windows computers are infected
>>> is "rare problems"
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> 30%?
>>
>> What an illogical conclusion from what was said.
>
> It wasn't a conclusion from what was written in this thread
>
>> Are you a politician??
>> Same kind of logic they use.
>> Buffalo
>
> Are you a Mac user? Those tend to be extremely stupid.
> Or are you (even worse) a windows user?

I've been using windows for years, never had a virus. It's not that I
think windows is necessarily better, but it runs the apps I want to use.
I've no doubt others do get these things, but since I've no idea what
they are doing when they get infected I'm in no position to comment. As
to being stupid I'm too old to worry about such trivial matters.
From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 02:31
On 3/23/2010 10:38 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:14:24 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>> From: "Char Jackson"<none(a)none.invalid>
>>
>> | On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:57:13 -0400, ToolPackinMama
>> |<philnblanc(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> People I meet have many times asked me if they should shut their Windows
>>>> computers off at night, and I always say, "Yes, keep your PC off unless
>>>> you are using it."
>>
>>>> I figure if it's off, an infected computer can do less damage.
>>
>> | I agree with the advice, although I don't follow it myself. To me, the
>> | primary reason for turning a system off is to save electricity.
>>
>>
>> Actualy the quiescent temperature is better since you dont have hard drive warming
>> exapnsion and drive cooling contraction cycles adding tom the wear and tear factor and
>> aging of a hard disk.
>
> Probably true, but I have no evidence, even anecdotal evidence, to
> indicate that it makes an appreciable difference in equipment life. :)
>

I feel constrained to point out that if they can't be bothered to keep
their PC free of malware, that it's probably better if their equipment
fails sooner.


From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 16:21
On 3/24/2010 7:46 AM, Leythos wrote:
> In article<hobh0h$s1i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> philnblanc(a)comcast.net says...
>> Please, guys and gals, urge your friends and customers to turn the
>> computers off when they are not using them... unless there is a
>> compelling reason to do otherwise.
>>
>
> You mean like maintenance that happens after the users are done using
> the computer?
>
> You mean like AV scans that happen at night so that they don't impact
> the user during the normal use hours?
>
> You mean like windows updates between 3AM and 4AM?
>
> You mean like remotely connecting to the computer to work?

Yes those are all good reasons.
From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 16:24
On 3/24/2010 7:48 AM, Leythos wrote:

> If you've worked with Electronics for any length of time, and with
> devices that have bearings, you would know, without guessing, that
> turning off a device increases chances of a problem when you try and use
> it again. There are also times when a device fails due to normal
> wear/tear/age....
>

You mean if I actually use my tires for stop and go traffic that they
may wear out sooner than if I hypothetically drove and drove and never
stopped? Hmm! That's interesting!

But wouldn't I use more gas if I never stopped? Gotta admit there is
something to that.
From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 16:36
On 3/24/2010 2:59 PM, Leythos wrote:

> Having designed hardware for decades and been responsible for failure
> analysis, I can assure you that turning off computers does contribute to
> their failure when you power them back on again.
>

Never mind the damage infected computers do while they are pointlessly
left running.

Oh, and never mind the energy savings, either.

I would never base a decision like that on whether it speeds up the
wearing-out process. There are larger questions to consider.

Maybe it wears out the switch on my lamp to turn it on and off, but do
any of you think we should therefore leave all lamps burning night and
day? Nobody would assert that we should, for fear of seeming foolish,
because to everybody THAT is obviously preposterous.

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