From: alexd on
Meanwhile, at the alt.internet.wireless Job Justification Hearings,
species8350 chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> On Jan 7, 2:04 pm, seaweedsl <seaweedst...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> - MAC address is useful for various things but you probably won't need
>> it. MAC address filtering (done from the router) is not good for
>> security. Ignore the address for now unless there is some specific
>> reason you are asked for it.

> I was surprised that you advised against MAC filtering at the router.
> It sounds like a good idea to me.

If you're using decent crypto then MAC address filtering is merely a layer
of inconvenience for little or no security gain.

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From: Shadow on
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:26:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
<not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:

>The router will be set up by someone else - the owner.
>
>I am only concerned with connecting my pc via a wifi card.
>
>I was surprised that you advised against MAC filtering at the router.
>It sounds like a good idea to me. I will simply give the number on the
>card to the chap who owns the router. This chap is reliable (a
>relative) and trustworthy to 100% (as near as I can calculate it).
Which is why I advised you to set up the card beforehand. Then
you could have read up on mac addresses, how to use wireshark or
kismet or airdump, and discovered how many minutes it will take that
snotty-faced neighbor's son to crack your network.
[]'s
Just use WPA , all other encryptions are a waste of time. MAC,
WEP, "hiding" ESSIDs are just inconveniences to a cracker. In fact,
they will draw attention to your network.
FWIW.
From: species8350 on
On Jan 8, 12:32 am, Shadow <Sh(a)dow> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:26:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
>
> <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net> wrote:
> >The router will be set up by someone else -  the owner.
>
> >I am only concerned with connecting my pc via a wifi card.
>
> >I was surprised that you advised against MAC filtering at the router.
> >It sounds like a good idea to me. I will simply give the number on the
> >card to the chap who owns the router. This chap is reliable (a
> >relative) and trustworthy to 100% (as near as I can calculate it).
>
>         Which is why I advised you to set up the card beforehand. Then
> you could have read up on mac addresses, how to use wireshark or
> kismet or airdump, and discovered how many minutes it will take that
> snotty-faced neighbor's son to crack your network.
>         []'s
>         Just use WPA , all other encryptions are a waste of time. MAC,
> WEP, "hiding" ESSIDs are just inconveniences to a cracker. In fact,
> they will draw attention to your network.
>         FWIW.

Are you saing that I can communicate with the reouter irrespective of
whether it (the router) has registered the MAC number of my wifi
card). This registration process appears to be recommended by the
manufacturer of the router as the initial level of the security
system. Higher levels are then introduced. Does this seem like a good
idea. All the other security levles will be invoked on top
From: Tony Hwang on
species8350 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I received a wifi PCI Card today, but the router for the house has not
> yet arrived.
>
> Can I install and setup the card on my pc prior to the arrival of the
> router?
>
> I do not yet have the WPA Preshared Key. I will receive this when the
> router is established. Do I need this to install the card?
>
> I note that the instuctions say that the antenna can be bent if
> necessary. Does this need to be done with caution?
>
> I note that there is printed on the card a MAC number. What is this
> number, and how is it used.
>
> Thanks
Hmmm,
Router and card will come with manual or set up CD.
Start from there. To assure least trouble they both
better be by same vendor. Antennas does not bend, it swivel
or turn on pivot.
From: Shadow on
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:46:41 -0800 (PST), species8350
<not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 12:32�am, Shadow <Sh(a)dow> wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:26:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
>>
>> <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net> wrote:
>> >The router will be set up by someone else - �the owner.
>>
>> >I am only concerned with connecting my pc via a wifi card.
>>
>> >I was surprised that you advised against MAC filtering at the router.
>> >It sounds like a good idea to me. I will simply give the number on the
>> >card to the chap who owns the router. This chap is reliable (a
>> >relative) and trustworthy to 100% (as near as I can calculate it).
>>
>> � � � � Which is why I advised you to set up the card beforehand. Then
>> you could have read up on mac addresses, how to use wireshark or
>> kismet or airdump, and discovered how many minutes it will take that
>> snotty-faced neighbor's son to crack your network.
>> � � � � []'s
>> � � � � Just use WPA , all other encryptions are a waste of time. MAC,
>> WEP, "hiding" ESSIDs are just inconveniences to a cracker. In fact,
>> they will draw attention to your network.
>> � � � � FWIW.
>
>Are you saing that I can communicate with the reouter irrespective of
>whether it (the router) has registered the MAC number of my wifi
>card).
Usually, 99%, yes. You still haven't given us the model of the
router. You can usually download the manual from the internet.
Just give the link to the model, and I'll tell you.
> This registration process appears to be recommended by the
>manufacturer of the router as the initial level of the security
>system. Higher levels are then introduced. Does this seem like a good
>idea. All the other security levles will be invoked on top
No, use only WPA. The other security measures will just draw
attention. It shows you are trying to hide something, and not very
good at it. It would be the first router I'd crack, (if I was a
hacker).
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