From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on
Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:
> This seems still to be a workaround. The proper way to do this would be
> to run either of both from a script that waits until the backup is done
> and then starts the other.

....and there is just such a way. The following Terminal command will
turn Time Machine off:

defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine AutoBackup
-bool NO

And this one will turn it back on:

defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine AutoBackup
-bool YES

Have SD! run the first one before it starts backing up, and the second
one after it finishes. You can tell SD! to do this in Options ->
Advanced.

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K.

Lang may your lum reek.
From: Nick Naym on
In article f%qxn.1800$Z6.632(a)edtnps82, Kir�ly at me(a)home.spamsucks.ca wrote
on 4/14/10 6:06 PM:

> Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>> This seems still to be a workaround. The proper way to do this would be
>> to run either of both from a script that waits until the backup is done
>> and then starts the other.
>
> ...and there is just such a way. The following Terminal command will
>
> turn Time Machine off:
>
> defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine AutoBackup
> -bool NO
>
> And this one will turn it back on:
>
> defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.TimeMachine AutoBackup
> -bool YES
>
> Have SD! run the first one before it starts backing up, and the second
> one after it finishes. You can tell SD! to do this in Options ->
> Advanced.

Nice.

But I remain suspicious about the whole "problem": There is no inherent
reason that SD! should fail if it and TM run simultaneously -- unless there
is something unusual going on that is somehow unique to the way SD! and/or
TM interoperate with TC.


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From: TaliesinSoft on
On 2010-04-14 17:54:34 -0500, Nick Naym said:

> But I remain suspicious about the whole "problem": There is no inherent
> reason that SD! should fail if it and TM run simultaneously -- unless there
> is something unusual going on that is somehow unique to the way SD! and/or
> TM interoperate with TC.

I just now ran a test. First I started Time Machine and then I
initiated a SuperDuper! backup of my internal drive directed at a
sparse bundle on my Time Capsule which is also the recipient of Time
Machine backups. After a couple of seconds the SuperDuper! backup
failed. Here is the log....

| 06:45:02 PM | Info | SuperDuper!, 2.6.2 (87), path:
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app, Mac OS 10.6.3 build 10D573 (i386)
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Started on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:45 PM
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Source Volume: Cowboy, mount: /, device:
/dev/disk0s2, media: FUJITSU MHW2160BJ G2, interconnect: Internal SATA,
file system: "Journaled HFS+", OS: 10.6.3 (10D573), capacity: 159.70
GB, used: 87.50 GB, directories: 167496, files: 577815, ejectable: NO,
ACLs: Enabled
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Target Image: /Volumes/Data-1/SuperDuper
Backup.sparsebundle, name: SuperDuper Backup
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Copy Mode : Smart Update
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Copy Script : Backup - all files.dset
| 06:45:02 PM | Info | Transcript : BuildTranscript.plist
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | PHASE: 1. Prepare to Copy Files
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Preparing Cowboy
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying the integrity of
volinfo.database
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | volinfo.database OK
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Enabling permissions on Cowboy
| 06:45:03 PM | Info | Refreshing Disk Arbitration ...
| 06:45:06 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that permissions are
enabled for Cowboy
| 06:45:06 PM | Info | Permissions on '/' are enabled.
| 06:45:06 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Mounting SuperDuper Backup
| 06:45:06 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Preparing SuperDuper Backup
| 06:45:08 PM | Info | hdiutil: create failed - No such file or directory
| 06:45:08 PM | Error | ****FAILED****: result=256 errno=22 (Unknown error: 0)
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James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com

From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on
Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> But I remain suspicious about the whole "problem": There is no inherent
> reason that SD! should fail if it and TM run simultaneously -- unless there
> is something unusual going on that is somehow unique to the way SD! and/or
> TM interoperate with TC.

I agree. I'd continue to communicate with Shirt Pocket about this
problem, because it still sounds like a SD! bug to me.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
From: TaliesinSoft on
After making my prior posting in this thread I initiated another
SuperDuper! backup of my internal drive, again directing the backup to
a sparse bundle on my Time Capsule. Only this time Time Machine was not
running at the time of launch of SuperDuper!. This time the backup
succeeded. Here is the log....

| 06:54:14 PM | Info | SuperDuper!, 2.6.2 (87), path:
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app, Mac OS 10.6.3 build 10D573 (i386)
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Started on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:54 PM
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Source Volume: Cowboy, mount: /, device:
/dev/disk0s2, media: FUJITSU MHW2160BJ G2, interconnect: Internal SATA,
file system: "Journaled HFS+", OS: 10.6.3 (10D573), capacity: 159.70
GB, used: 87.50 GB, directories: 167494, files: 577812, ejectable: NO,
ACLs: Enabled
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Target Image: /Volumes/Data/SuperDuper
Backup.sparsebundle, name: SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Copy Mode : Smart Update
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Copy Script : Backup - all files.dset
| 06:54:14 PM | Info | Transcript : BuildTranscript.plist
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | PHASE: 1. Prepare to Copy Files
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Preparing Cowboy
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying the integrity of
volinfo.database
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | volinfo.database OK
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Enabling permissions on Cowboy
| 06:54:15 PM | Info | Refreshing Disk Arbitration ...
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that permissions are
enabled for Cowboy
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | Permissions on '/' are enabled.
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Mounting SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Preparing SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Setting ownership and access
modes for '/Volumes/Data/SuperDuper Backup.sparsebundle'
| 06:54:21 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Mounting SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:23 PM | Info | /dev/disk3 GUID_partition_scheme

| 06:54:23 PM | Info | /dev/disk3s1 EFI

| 06:54:23 PM | Info | /dev/disk3s2 Apple_HFS
/Volumes/SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:23 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Mounting SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:23 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Preparing SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:23 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Enabling permissions on
SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:23 PM | Info | Refreshing Disk Arbitration ...
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that permissions are
enabled for SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | Permissions on '/Volumes/SuperDuper
Backup' are enabled.
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Verifying that SuperDuper
Backup ACL support matches Cowboy
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Preserving Spotlight state on
SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Disabling Spotlight search
indexing on SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | PHASE: 2. Copy Files
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Copying files from Cowboy to
SuperDuper Backup using Smart Update
| 06:54:40 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Cloning Cowboy to SuperDuper Backup
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Copying copy files with delete using
script: /Users/adventures/Library/Application Support/SuperDuper!/Copy
Scripts/Standard Scripts/Backup - all files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 27 commands from copy script
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude
system temporary files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 6 commands from copy script
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude
system cache files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 1 commands from copy script
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude
Norton FileSaver files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 2 commands from copy script
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude
Google Desktop Index files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 1 commands from copy script
/Applications/SuperDuper!.app/Contents/Resources/Copy Scripts/Exclude
iTunes Temporary files.dset
| 06:54:41 PM | Info | Loading 0 commands from copy script
/Users/adventures/Library/Application Support/SuperDuper!/Copy
Scripts/Standard Scripts/Backup - all files.dset
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | /
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | /cores
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | /Network
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | /.Spotlight-V100
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | Preserving /.Spotlight-V100
| 06:54:44 PM | Info | /private
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/D7
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/HW
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/aN
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/H3
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/VX
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/3X
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/om
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/folders/zz
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/BonjourPrinters.plist
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/Printers-Willie.plist
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/Printers-Merle.plist
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/Printers-Sidekick.plist
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring
/private/var/tmp/com.apple.speech.synthesis.globals
| 06:54:47 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/tmp/launchd
| 06:54:50 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/vm/sleepimage
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/vm/swapfile0
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/vpncontrol.sock
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/usbmuxd
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/syslog
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/printtool
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/portmap.socket
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mDNSResponder
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/cupsd
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring
/private/var/run/com.apple.ActivityMonitor.socket
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/asl_input
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/SCHelper
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/syslog.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/diskarbitrationd.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/configd.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/DirectoryService.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/socketfilterfw.launchd
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/pcscd.pub
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/.DSRunningSP1
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/appfwd.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring
/private/var/run/com.apple.loginwindow.didRunThisBoot
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/automount.initialized
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mds.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/resolv.conf
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/sntp.log
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/ntpd.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/pppconfd
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/cron.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/utmpx
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/hdiejectd.pid
| 06:56:17 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/run/mds
| 06:56:22 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/db/BootCache.playlist
| 06:56:22 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/var/db/volinfo.database
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launchd-116.uU6kI2
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-ellw5e
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-NxRekv
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/launch-4oGlVd
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/icssuis502
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/ics165
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/SDTargetImageDevice
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | Ignoring /private/tmp/target448.indexState
| 06:56:38 PM | Info | /Users
| 07:01:56 PM | Info | /usr
| 07:02:44 PM | Info | /bin
| 07:02:44 PM | Info | /Library
| 07:05:51 PM | Info | /sbin
| 07:05:54 PM | Info | /System
| 07:16:09 PM | Info | /.Trashes
| 07:16:09 PM | Info | Ignoring /.hotfiles.btree
| 07:16:09 PM | Info | /Applications
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | /.fseventsd
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Preserving /.fseventsd
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | /dev
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | /net
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | /home
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | /Volumes
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Data
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Willie
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/SuperDuper Backup
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Merle
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Sidekick
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Ignoring /Volumes/Cowboy
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Evaluated 744736 items occupying 86.55 GB
(167495 directories, 567816 files, 9425 symlinks)
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Copied 1089 items totaling 0.56 GB (184
directories, 900 files, 5 symlinks)
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | Cloned 83.84 GB of data in 1793 seconds
at an effective transfer rate of 46.76 MB/s
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Resetting Custom Icon bit on
SuperDuper Backup
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | PHASE: 3. After Successful Copy
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Making SuperDuper Backup bootable
| 07:24:34 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Blessing OS X System Folder
| 07:24:36 PM | Info | Successfully blessed Mac OS X folder on
SuperDuper Backup
| 07:24:36 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Blessing OS 9 System Folder
| 07:24:36 PM | Info | Did not bless Mac OS 9 System Folder on
SuperDuper Backup because it does not exist.
| 07:24:36 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Updating prebinding on SuperDuper Backup
| 07:24:36 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Updating boot cache on
'/Volumes/SuperDuper Backup'
| 07:25:51 PM | Info | update_dyld_shared_cache[975] current i386
cache file invalid because
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv
has changed
| 07:27:05 PM | Info | update_dyld_shared_cache: warning
mismatched install path in
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/iLifeMediaBrowser.framework/Versions/A/iLifeMediaBrowser
for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 07:27:05 PM | Info | update_dyld_shared_cache: warning
mismatched install path in
/System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/MacOS/RawCamera
for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 07:27:05 PM | Info | update_dyld_shared_cache: warning
mismatched install path in
/System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle/Contents/Resources/MetadataLib.dylib
for /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
| 07:28:50 PM | Info | Successfully updated boot cache on
SuperDuper Backup
| 07:28:50 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Restoring Spotlight state on
SuperDuper Backup
| 07:28:50 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Restoring Spotlight search
indexing state on SuperDuper Backup
| 07:28:54 PM | Info | /Volumes/SuperDuper Backup:
| 07:28:54 PM | Info | Indexing enabled.
| 07:28:54 PM | Info | Indexing enabled on SuperDuper Backup
| 07:28:54 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Unmounting SuperDuper Backup
| 07:28:54 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Unmounting
'/Volumes/Data/SuperDuper Backup.sparsebundle'
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | "disk3" unmounted.
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | "disk3" ejected.
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | PHASE: 4. And Finally...
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | ...ACTION: Quitting SuperDuper!
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | ......COMMAND => Quitting SuperDuper!
| 07:28:57 PM | Info | Copy complete.

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