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From: Robert Peirce on 15 Jun 2010 21:31
In article <bob-6F5C9F.21055915062010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-ADDCEC.07571313062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like you have some strange setup there.
> >
> > I run my own mail server (Postfix + Dovecot), and have no such problems
> > with Drobo.
>
> I think the problem is in my definition of the Mail Server. Different
> names produce different error messages.
>
> 127.0.0.1 502 5.5.1 Error: command not implemented
> robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> robert-peirces-computer.local Interrupted.
> local.robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> peirce-family.com.local The specified host is unknown.
> local.peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> peirce-family The specified host is unknown.
> peirce-family.local The specified host is unknown.
> local.peirce-family The specified host is unknown.
>
> Since mail is sent to rbp(a)local.peirce.family.com from
> rbp(a)local.peirce-family.com and this works from a terminal window and
> shows up in Mail.app, I am inclined to think the server is
> local.peirce-family.com, but I may be missing something.
>
> Perhaps I need to use something other than port 25.
>
> I, also, use Postfix, but I use qpopper to feed local mail to Postfix
> which I believe acts as sendmail. The README for Qpopper says:
>
> Qpopper supports the widely used POP3 protocol for downloading Internet
> e-mail used by many popular e-mail clients. Qpopper does not include a
> message transfer agent or SMTP support and normally works with standard
> UNIX mail transfer agents such as sendmail or smail.

I went back to using verizon.net and got that working. I'd still like
to know why I can send local mail from a terminal or Mail.app and
receive it in Mail.app but can't send it from Drobo, but now it is an
academic curiosity.
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jun 2010 21:55
In article <bob-6F5C9F.21055915062010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-ADDCEC.07571313062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like you have some strange setup there.
> >
> > I run my own mail server (Postfix + Dovecot), and have no such problems
> > with Drobo.
>
> I think the problem is in my definition of the Mail Server. Different
> names produce different error messages.
>
> 127.0.0.1 502 5.5.1 Error: command not implemented
> robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> robert-peirces-computer.local Interrupted.
> local.robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> peirce-family.com.local The specified host is unknown.
> local.peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> peirce-family The specified host is unknown.
> peirce-family.local The specified host is unknown.
> local.peirce-family The specified host is unknown.

With the exception of the very first one, all of those seem to be pseudo
host names based on Bonjour or something else, rather than real domain
names. So depending on how the Drobo email software works, they may not
resolve correctly.

Assuming the mail server is on the same machine as the Drobo software, I
would try the standard method of:

localhost

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From: Fred McKenzie on 17 Jun 2010 01:10
In article <jollyroger-81353A.20551015062010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> With the exception of the very first one, all of those seem to be pseudo
> host names based on Bonjour or something else, rather than real domain
> names.

I'm able to ping local.peirce-family.com and peirce-family.com. Both
have an IP of 66.96.146.86, which has a reverse-lookup of
86.146.96.66.static.eigbox.net.

Could the problem with Drobo have anything to do with the machine's
inability to obtain an IP for those names that produced the
"Interrupted" message? Does the mail program use an IP address for
internal (within the computer) communications?

Fred
From: Jolly Roger on 17 Jun 2010 07:52
In article <fmmck-9F4CE7.01103317062010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Fred McKenzie <fmmck(a)aol.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-81353A.20551015062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > With the exception of the very first one, all of those seem to be pseudo
> > host names based on Bonjour or something else, rather than real domain
> > names.
>
> I'm able to ping local.peirce-family.com and peirce-family.com. Both
> have an IP of 66.96.146.86, which has a reverse-lookup of
> 86.146.96.66.static.eigbox.net.

The 'ping' command-line tool does not use the same network DNS
resolution method as the Drobo mail client.

Have you tried putting 66.96.146.86 into the mail server field of the
Drobo mail settings instead of a host name?

It's poor practice to use the word "local" in a domain name that is
public.

Who runs your mail server and peirce-family.com?

What the heck is eigbox.net? It seems to be extremely slow to respond.
If this is your virtual host, I'd recommend looking for something better
- it seems to suck in a major way.

> Could the problem with Drobo have anything to do with the machine's
> inability to obtain an IP for those names that produced the
> "Interrupted" message? Does the mail program use an IP address for
> internal (within the computer) communications?

What "Interrupted" message?

You've got some serious DNS problems, I'm afraid, possibly related to
this eigbox.net server.

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From: Jolly Roger on 19 Jun 2010 15:30
In article <bob-51B882.21310715062010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:

> In article <bob-6F5C9F.21055915062010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> Robert Peirce <bob(a)peirce-family.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <jollyroger-ADDCEC.07571313062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds like you have some strange setup there.
> > >
> > > I run my own mail server (Postfix + Dovecot), and have no such problems
> > > with Drobo.
> >
> > I think the problem is in my definition of the Mail Server. Different
> > names produce different error messages.
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 502 5.5.1 Error: command not implemented
> > robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> > robert-peirces-computer.local Interrupted.
> > local.robert-peirces-computer The specified host is unknown.
> > peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> > peirce-family.com.local The specified host is unknown.
> > local.peirce-family.com Interrupted.
> > peirce-family The specified host is unknown.
> > peirce-family.local The specified host is unknown.
> > local.peirce-family The specified host is unknown.
> >
> > Since mail is sent to rbp(a)local.peirce.family.com from
> > rbp(a)local.peirce-family.com and this works from a terminal window and
> > shows up in Mail.app, I am inclined to think the server is
> > local.peirce-family.com, but I may be missing something.
> >
> > Perhaps I need to use something other than port 25.
> >
> > I, also, use Postfix, but I use qpopper to feed local mail to Postfix
> > which I believe acts as sendmail. The README for Qpopper says:
> >
> > Qpopper supports the widely used POP3 protocol for downloading Internet
> > e-mail used by many popular e-mail clients. Qpopper does not include a
> > message transfer agent or SMTP support and normally works with standard
> > UNIX mail transfer agents such as sendmail or smail.
>
> I went back to using verizon.net and got that working. I'd still like
> to know why I can send local mail from a terminal or Mail.app and
> receive it in Mail.app but can't send it from Drobo, but now it is an
> academic curiosity.

That's probably best. Whoever runs your mail server and
peirce-family.com is apparently having difficulties. The server at
eigbox.net seems to be extremely slow to respond. If this is your
virtual host, I'd recommend looking for something better
- it seems to suck in a major way.

--
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JR
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