Setting up a LAN
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From: JD on 20 Jun 2010 20:24 Greetings Experts, I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless. The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It refused to accept the letters. The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with an Ethernet cable. I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as an admin in Box2. I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch? TIA Have a great week :-)
From: Paul on 21 Jun 2010 01:03 JD wrote: > Greetings Experts, > > I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network > with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet > but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another > although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem > connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless. > > The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's > where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB > cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on > the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the > point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the > router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It > refused to accept the letters. > > The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with > an Ethernet cable. > > I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed > that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group > called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I > setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as > an admin in Box2. > > I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn > into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch? > > TIA > > Have a great week :-) I guess I'd probably start with something simple, like "ping". At least get the IP addresses from each computer, to understand what's happening with respect to the router. For example, in a Command Prompt window, I could try "ipconfig" to get the IP address of that computer. Knowing both IP addresses, I could use the ping command, with the address of the other computer as the passed parameter. ping 192.168.1.2 Also, for monitoring within each PC, you can use a program like Wireshark (or any other promiscuous receiver program that can sniff packets). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark The System Requirements (i.e. OS version) is listed here. Perhaps the older Ethereal package is available for older OSes. I don't know if I have any copies of it around here now. http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChIntroPlatforms.html Staring at workgroups and the like, is for after you've determined the boxes can actually see one another. For example, some protocols may be stopped by any Firewalls you're using (Windows Firewall). When I wanted to turn on Simple File Sharing here, I noticed that WinXP reconfigured the firewall, presumably to punch holes for the appropriate port numbers. Microsoft added a pronounced delay, for dramatic effect :-) I would have expected adding a couple rules to a Firewall, to take a fraction of a second. Paul
From: JD on 21 Jun 2010 20:53 Paul wrote: > JD wrote: >> Greetings Experts, >> >> I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network >> with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet >> but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another >> although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem >> connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless. >> >> The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and >> that's where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook >> via a USB cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of >> course) on the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I >> had reached the point with the NetBook of inputting the requested >> "8-digit pin from the router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 >> letters and 5 numbers. It refused to accept the letters. >> >> The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it >> with an Ethernet cable. >> >> I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I >> noticed that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) >> and a group called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties >> of Win2K I setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already >> registered as an admin in Box2. >> >> I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn >> into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch? >> >> TIA >> >> Have a great week :-) > > I guess I'd probably start with something simple, like "ping". > > At least get the IP addresses from each computer, to understand > what's happening with respect to the router. > > For example, in a Command Prompt window, I could try "ipconfig" > to get the IP address of that computer. Knowing both IP addresses, > I could use the ping command, with the address of the other computer > as the passed parameter. > > ping 192.168.1.2 > > Also, for monitoring within each PC, you can use a program like > Wireshark (or any other promiscuous receiver program that can > sniff packets). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark > > The System Requirements (i.e. OS version) is listed here. Perhaps the > older Ethereal package is available for older OSes. I don't know if I > have any copies of it around here now. > > http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChIntroPlatforms.html > > Staring at workgroups and the like, is for after you've determined > the boxes can actually see one another. For example, some protocols > may be stopped by any Firewalls you're using (Windows Firewall). When > I wanted to turn on Simple File Sharing here, I noticed that WinXP > reconfigured the firewall, presumably to punch holes for the appropriate > port numbers. Microsoft added a pronounced delay, for dramatic effect :-) > I would have expected adding a couple rules to a Firewall, to take > a fraction of a second. > > Paul Thanks again Paul. Curiously I have very rarely had problems with firewalls when I setup OSs and I have done that dozens of times. I have mostly used Zone Alarm and Kerio Personal. I have the system set up on my main computer and I still have work on the NetBook. There is a very clear and helpful manual available at http://laureldsl.net/pdf/D-Link%202320B%20UserManual.pdf I suggest you download a copy and I believe you will like it. It goes very nicely through the http://192.168.1.1, etc. I dislike Windows 7 and want to install my Win2K as soon as possible. The drive on the NetBook is divided into C: and D: and Windows 7 (stripped somewhat) is on C:. I'll leave it like that for the moment. This is going to be a bit of trouble. I have Win2K on a CD and I don't have an independent CD-Player. I'm thinking of copying the CD to a hard drive, putting that into an external drive, and copying from there to the D: drive. Finally, installing it with the updates. It would be much easier, if I could hitch the NetBook directly to my computer and copy the CD from my computer straight to the NetBook D: drive. I think that would call for a special cable. More soon :-)
From: JD on 21 Jun 2010 21:00 Joel wrote: > JD <JD(a)DeadEnd.net> wrote: > >> Greetings Experts, >> >> I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network >> with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet >> but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another >> although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem >> connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless. >> >> The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's >> where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB >> cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on >> the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the >> point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the >> router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It >> refused to accept the letters. >> >> The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with >> an Ethernet cable. >> >> I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed >> that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group >> called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I >> setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as >> an admin in Box2. >> >> I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn >> into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch? > > I am not a network experted but have been able to make all wired and > wireless computers be able to talk and sharing data to each other at some > point. IOW, I have upgraded the router few times and not always have the > same set up. So I will try to give you the general info to try, and hoping > someone with more networking knowledge will fill the gap. Or I can only be > able to share my limited experience. > > In order for the computers to see each other you will have to > > 1. Set up or create a NETWORK (like HOME Network). Then you may have to > follow other permissions like > > a. Adding the Network name to Firewall setting. I don't know other but > ZoneAlarm detects and asks me to confirm or type in the name > > b. Adding drive, folder etc. whatever you want to SHARING permission > > 2. I have only setup to share something at home so I never set up PASSWORD > to know much about PASSWORD > > 3. And I have to create/add the SAME NETWORK name and other information to > all computers I want to share the Home Network. > > Quite afew time I can't get them to recognize each other, and they later > worked fine without changing anything. When looking at the network, the > NAMES (computer names) should appear in the connected or available members > (computers). > > For more detail and trouble shooting then you will need more help from the > expert. > >> TIA >> >> Have a great week :-) Thanks Joel for your comments. The following link has a good explanation of setting up this LAN: http://laureldsl.net/pdf/D-Link%202320B%20UserManual.pdf I have the same attitude to passwords as you. Blanks are the very best :-) Also, see my comments to Paul above and I'll be back with some more soon. Enjoy your week :-)
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