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From: Robert Baer on 24 Sep 2009 04:48 mpm wrote: > Got a URL renewal notice in the mail today from Domain Registry of > America. > They've graciously sent me a courtesy renewal form which looks an > awful lot like an invoice. ** Read it carefully! "courtesy renewal" is NOT a correct appellation. I have seen dozens of these illegal notices (had 20+ URLs) and ALL were a year early! They have been ORDERED by a Canadian court years ago to Cease And Desist. Scream bloody murder to everyone that seems to be of authority and cite the court order. I complained to "everyone" about 2 years ago and the idiots stopped sending me their garbage. > > Only problem: I don't have anything registered with them. > And my provider for the about-to-be-expired URL is 1and1.com who > renews it automatically for free. > So, why would I pay $95 to Domain Registry of America? ** PAY NOTHING to them!!! Read what i said above. > > I don't know exactly why, but this sort of pisses me off. > How many folks pony up the dollars not knowing they're getting > screwed? > There's no need to change registrars. DRA is just on a fishing > expedition looking for expiring URL. > Note by the way, mine won't expire for 6 more months!!! > > Anyway: SHOULD I REPORT THEM TO OUR STATE FOR DECEPTIVE TRADE > PRACTICES? ** Again: Report to EVERYONE: _all_ internet orgs for starters, your state AG, and the state AG where they sent the notice(s) from, and anyone else that looks like they might have authority, including that Canadian Court. > > Here's what the letter says, and then you decide (but tell me too...) > > QUOTE: > > You must renew your domain name to retain exclusive rights to it on > the Web, and now is the time to transfer and renew your name from your > current Registrar to the Domain Registry of America. Failure to renew > your domain name by the expiration date may result in a loss of your > online identiy making it difficult for your customers and friends to > locate you on the Web. > > END QUOTE > > Scum bags! > I think I'm going to report them anyway.... YES! YES! YES!
From: Robert Baer on 24 Sep 2009 04:54 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:59:51 GMT, zekfrivo(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) > wrote: > >> In article <28933fc5-d014-4ac1-9b0c-a410205e6dcf(a)p15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> Got a URL renewal notice in the mail today from Domain Registry of >>> America. >>> They've graciously sent me a courtesy renewal form which looks an >>> awful lot like an invoice. >>> >>> Only problem: I don't have anything registered with them. >>> And my provider for the about-to-be-expired URL is 1and1.com who >>> renews it automatically for free. >>> So, why would I pay $95 to Domain Registry of America? >>> >>> I don't know exactly why, but this sort of pisses me off. >>> How many folks pony up the dollars not knowing they're getting >>> screwed? >>> There's no need to change registrars. DRA is just on a fishing >>> expedition looking for expiring URL. >>> Note by the way, mine won't expire for 6 more months!!! >>> >>> Anyway: SHOULD I REPORT THEM TO OUR STATE FOR DECEPTIVE TRADE >>> PRACTICES? >>> >>> Here's what the letter says, and then you decide (but tell me too...) >>> >>> QUOTE: >>> >>> You must renew your domain name to retain exclusive rights to it on >>> the Web, and now is the time to transfer and renew your name from your >>> current Registrar to the Domain Registry of America. Failure to renew >>> your domain name by the expiration date may result in a loss of your >>> online identiy making it difficult for your customers and friends to >>> locate you on the Web. >>> >>> END QUOTE >>> >>> Scum bags! >>> I think I'm going to report them anyway.... >> I have got something like this. Confusing. >> >> greg > > This is a common scam. Just ignore the invoice. > > ...Jim Thompson NO! Do *NOT* ignore; -->complain<-- to all internet authorities! See my previous response. They are illegally defying a Court Order.
From: PeterD on 24 Sep 2009 09:09 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:58:51 GMT, "Paul E. Schoen" <paul(a)peschoen.com> wrote: >The sad thing is that these notices are sent to businesses where such mail >is probably opened and handled by a secretary who might just think it's an >invoice and would cut and send a check. That is why your business should have a compentent accountant handling the financial aspects and not a secretary! The accountant would, as a very first step, check to make sure there is a business relationship between the company and the issuer of the 'invoice'. As well, any secretary that can't read the thing in question where it says: "This is not an invoice or bill" deserves to get whatever the company gives her--including getting that cost removed from his/her paycheck. <g>
From: PeterD on 24 Sep 2009 09:10 On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:26:45 -0700 (PDT), Mike <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote: >On Sep 23, 7:58�pm, "Paul E. Schoen" <p...(a)peschoen.com> wrote: >> "mpm" <mpmill...(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> news:28933fc5-d014-4ac1-9b0c-a410205e6dcf(a)p15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > Got a URL renewal notice in the mail today from Domain Registry of >> > America. >> > They've graciously sent me a courtesy renewal form which looks an >> > awful lot like an invoice. >> >> > Only problem: �I don't have anything registered with them. >> > And my provider for the about-to-be-expired URL is 1and1.com who >> > renews it automatically for free. >> > So, why would I pay $95 to Domain Registry of America? >> >> > I don't know exactly why, but this sort of pisses me off. >> > How many folks pony up the dollars not knowing they're getting >> > screwed? >> > There's no need to change registrars. � DRA is just on a fishing >> > expedition looking for expiring URL. >> > Note by the way, mine won't expire for 6 more months!!! >> >> > Anyway: �SHOULD I REPORT THEM TO OUR STATE FOR DECEPTIVE TRADE >> > PRACTICES? >> >> > Here's what the letter says, and then you decide (but tell me too...) >> >> > QUOTE: >> >> > You must renew your domain name to retain exclusive rights to it on >> > the Web, and now is the time to transfer and renew your name from your >> > current Registrar to the Domain Registry of America. �Failure to renew >> > your domain name by the expiration date may result in a loss of your >> > online identiy making it difficult for your customers and friends to >> > locate you on the Web. >> >> > END QUOTE >> >> > Scum bags! >> > I think I'm going to report them anyway.... >> >> I get those all the time. The wording is absolutely correct, and anyone who >> is savvy enough to have already registered a domain with another registrar >> must have had a major brain fart to send any money to these guys. It >> clearly states that they are asking you to transfer your domain to them. >> >> Some registrars make it very difficult to transfer domains, as I found when >> I switched from ItsYourDomain to MyDomain.com. I had to fax them a copy of >> my drivers license and send them a signed affidavit that I wanted them to >> transfer it. >> >> The sad thing is that these notices are sent to businesses where such mail >> is probably opened and handled by a secretary who might just think it's an >> invoice and would cut and send a check. The domain probably would not be >> transferred unless a corporate officer signed off on it with the original >> registrar. But good luck getting your money back if the check has gone >> through the mail... >> >> Paul- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >So... it's deceptive and predatory. >They feed on people's inability to fully understand the URL >registation process, and further load the issue in their favor by >using shock words like expiration, failure, and loss. > >I guess the one saving grace is that when I retire, I have the option >to totally remove computers from my home. >Well, except for the one in the microwave. And the fridge. Oh, and >the remote control.... > >Face it, we're screwed. :) > No we are not! Only people who blindly believe everthing they see or get. (See, they alos elected Obama...) Yes, that company is a scammer. But there is no reason what so ever for falling for their scam. >.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 26 Sep 2009 02:20
Mike wrote: > > Well -- UPDATE > I just got another very similar notice today regarding another URL. > > This one's from the "Domain Renewal Group". > Same return mailing address as Domain Registry of America, so I assume > it's the same scumbags. > > I guess operating under different names is a way to increase the > response rate and avoid capture. > > So any Google-ers who happen upon this while researching DROA, don't > use DRG either. It could be worse. It could be from Geico, or Direct TV. :( -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense! |