From: T i m on
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:07 +0000, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:


>>> Works fine for me (on a Mini) under OS X. I enabled it in the System
>>> Prefs somewhere. So under XP's equivalent would be the place.
>>
>> Or not. On XP it's the network card properties and on 10.5 the nearest
>> I can find is in the Energy saving pref (Under allow Administrator to
>> do summat ..<forgotten>)?
>
>You've ticked "Wake for Ethernet network administrator access" ?? Under
>"Options" in the Energy Saver pref.

That's the badger.
>
>I wonder if the sender has to be a network admin or something. Hmmm.

Don't think so.

>Anyway I use WakeOnLan (http://www.readpixel.com/wakeonlan/) to wake up
>one Mini from the other.

I've tried a couple of ways (that work on other machines etc) so I
know the concept is working.
>
>Note, I'm talking about waking from sleep, not starting from power-off
>(although I think that's possible too).

Ah, that crossed my mind after sending my last message ... however,
the other machines wake up from 'off' [1] so I know it is possible in
some cases.

If it were a PC I'd be looking in the BIOS at this point.

Cheers, T i m

[1] Except the off where they are switched off at the wall <doh>, as I
just had when testing to confirm I could still wake up the other
machines when this Mini wouldn't (the Mrs turns her PC off at the
multiway adaptor). ;-)

From: David Sankey on
In article <JYednYVRKdZq1-TWnZ2dnUVZ8oadnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>,
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> On 15/02/2010 12:53, T i m wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:06:44 +0000, Tim Streater
> > <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 15/02/2010 11:41, T i m wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying to get my Mac Mini to Wake On Lan. I can send a Magic
> >>> Packet to it via several sources and everything else wakes up ok when
> >>> I send one to them.
....
> Note, I'm talking about waking from sleep, not starting from power-off
> (although I think that's possible too).

This I think is the gotcha.

Macs in general don't do Wake on LAN from power off, rather just from
sleep.

I'm not sure what XP makes of sleeping, but I'm guessing that T i m
means from power off?

Kind regards,

Dave
From: T i m on
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:49:50 +0000, David Sankey
<David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:


>> Note, I'm talking about waking from sleep, not starting from power-off
>> (although I think that's possible too).
>
>This I think is the gotcha.

Damn.
>
>Macs in general don't do Wake on LAN from power off, rather just from
>sleep.

OK, well it's good to know that I've not missed summat.
>
>I'm not sure what XP makes of sleeping, but I'm guessing that T i m
>means from power off?

I did indeed ...

On the box I'm currently testing as a home server it draws 60W when
running, 40 on standby and 2 when off (so obviously not 'off' as
such). It in turn can wake (and sleep) 'off' machines (and how we
generally leave them when not using them for a while) to run a backup.

I guess if I measure the power consumption on the Mini in it's various
'not on' states and see how it fares there might be an alternative
option.

Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:07 +0000, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:


>You've ticked "Wake for Ethernet network administrator access" ?? Under
>"Options" in the Energy Saver pref.
>
>Note, I'm talking about waking from sleep, not starting from power-off


Right, just tested that and it works ok as you said.

So, off it consumes no power (rare these days) running / idle about
21W and with an external USB powered drive attached, about 26W.

Sooo, say I was to press the C2D Mini into action as a Mini WHS (the
irony <g>) I would have to buy a 500G drive to replace the 60G one and
probably either a FW or USB self powered drive externally. The problem
is I'd have to buy said drives (not cheap) and tie up a Mini doing
something I'm not sure it was designed for nor the best use of it from
an asset realisation POV (ie I could sell it and use it to pay the
difference it would make to the electric bill over the next 20 years).

The old Asus / AMD box was free, has 4 x SATA2 internal and an eSATA2
connector and will take the 3 x 500G Samsung drives I happen to have
spare. The money I save on hardware I can put in the lekky meter (and
it all helps to keep the place warm). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. And I can now leave this Mini on Standby so the WHS can wake it
up for a backup.

p.p.s. M$ do a remote console connector thingy for Mac that I've now
tried and seems to work ok.