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From: Ray Fischer on 4 Jun 2010 13:50
Vito <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>"Iarnrod" <iarnrod(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>>> And neither did he start the war.
>
>> Sure he did. You're just a dope who has a third-grade view of history.
>
>> Hint: You're not as smart as you "think" you are.
>
>Obviously I'm more knowledgable than you. I knew people who were there.
>
>How did Ike start a war that didn't begin til he'd been out of office for
>years?

By sending "advisers" to Viet Nam and establishing a precedent that
the US had some business in the affairs of that country.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Gunner Asch on 4 Jun 2010 15:01
On 04 Jun 2010 17:50:04 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>Vito <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>"Iarnrod" <iarnrod(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> And neither did he start the war.
>>
>>> Sure he did. You're just a dope who has a third-grade view of history.
>>
>>> Hint: You're not as smart as you "think" you are.
>>
>>Obviously I'm more knowledgable than you. I knew people who were there.
>>
>>How did Ike start a war that didn't begin til he'd been out of office for
>>years?
>
>By sending "advisers" to Viet Nam and establishing a precedent that
>the US had some business in the affairs of that country.


Actually..that was done by FDR.

The first American to die in Viet Nam (French Indo China) died in an
ambush in September 23, 1945. Major A. Peter Dewey

Some 128 members of a MAAG began supervising the use of U. S. equipment
in Vietnam on Sept. 17, 1950. And two U. S. fliers contracted by the CIA
were killed in action flying a mission over Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The
first U. S. advisors sent to actually train Vietnamese troops arrived
Feb. 12, 1955.
Air Force Tech Sgt. Richard B Fitzgibbon, Jr. murdered in Vietnam by a
fellow airman on June 8, 1956
Capt. Harry Cramer, Jr. was killed in a munitions handling accident Oct.
21, 1957



Gunner



--


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
From: Vito on 4 Jun 2010 19:47
Gunner Asch wrote:
>>(Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> Vito <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> "Iarnrod" <iarnrod(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> And neither did he start the war.
>>>>
>>>>> Sure he did. You're just a dope who has a third-grade view of
>>>>> history.
>>>>
>>>>> Hint: You're not as smart as you "think" you are.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I'm more knowledgable than you. I knew people who were
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> How did Ike start a war that didn't begin til he'd been out of
>>>> office for years?
>>>
>>> By sending "advisers" to Viet Nam and establishing a precedent that
>>> the US had some business in the affairs of that country.
>>
>>
>> Actually..that was done by FDR.
>>
>> The first American to die in Viet Nam (French Indo China) died in an
>> ambush in September 23, 1945. Major A. Peter Dewey
>>
>> Some 128 members of a MAAG began supervising the use of U. S.
>> equipment in Vietnam on Sept. 17, 1950. And two U. S. fliers
>> contracted by the CIA were killed in action flying a mission over
>> Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The first U. S. advisors sent to actually
>> train Vietnamese troops arrived Feb. 12, 1955.
>> Air Force Tech Sgt. Richard B Fitzgibbon, Jr. murdered in Vietnam by
>> a fellow airman on June 8, 1956
>> Capt. Harry Cramer, Jr. was killed in a munitions handling accident
>> Oct. 21, 1957
>>
Yes, but these were not really considered "commitments", just help. We
could have pulled them out without loosing face when the So. Vietnamese
government (Diem) fucked up. Ike left it to the new president - JFK - to
decide when to either whack Diem and/or pull the plug.

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1961.html is pretty
good.
Replace "South Veitnamese commandos" with SEAL 1 operating under CIA.


From: Vito on 5 Jun 2010 08:44
Iarnrod wrote:
> Wow. The power of stupidity is strong in you, ....

Proven wrong, you fall back on personal insult.
Sorry, I don't play. Come back when yo have some info to offer.


From: Iarnrod on 5 Jun 2010 10:18
On Jun 5, 6:44 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Iarnrod wrote:
> > Wow. The power of stupidity is strong in you, ....
>
> Proven wrong,

Yes, you were, kook.

> Sorry, I don't play.  

Because you're not remotely capable of getting it right.

> Come back when yo have some info to offer.

Sorry, dearie, I am not going anywhere, I am here at all times to
correct your errors.

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