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From: Henrik Carlqvist on 31 Dec 2009 05:23 Tuxedo <tuxedo(a)mailinator.com> wrote: > I believe my system has a fairly standard Intel on-board 82852/8255 GM > Does anyone here happen to have the same type of hardware and an > xorg.conf file with DRI configured and working? Sorry, I don't have that hardware and haven't much experience from Slackware 13. However, in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT I notice the following rows: extra/xf86-video-intel-alternate/xf86-video-intel-* (several alternate versions of the Xorg intel driver just in case the default doesn't work properly for you) Dir you try any alternate drivers for your intel graphics chipset? regards Henrik -- The address in the header is only to prevent spam. My real address is: hc3(at)poolhem.se Examples of addresses which go to spammers: root(a)localhost postmaster(a)localhost
From: Tuxedo on 31 Dec 2009 11:02 Henrik Carlqvist wrote: > Tuxedo <tuxedo(a)mailinator.com> wrote: > > I believe my system has a fairly standard Intel on-board 82852/8255 GM > > > Does anyone here happen to have the same type of hardware and an > > xorg.conf file with DRI configured and working? > > Sorry, I don't have that hardware and haven't much experience from > Slackware 13. However, in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT I notice the following > rows: > > extra/xf86-video-intel-alternate/xf86-video-intel-* (several alternate > versions of the Xorg intel driver just in case the default doesn't work > properly for you) > > Dir you try any alternate drivers for your intel graphics chipset? Yes I also read that initially but couldn't find the packages in the 13.0 installation file system. So I had a closer look and now found the various files within the extra directory on the bootable USB I had created: xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.txt <- text file (contaning no useful details) xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.txz <- package with driver xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.asc <- PGP signature Additionally, there are txt/txz/asc files for driver versions 2.6.3 and 2.7.1 and 2.8.1, so in all there appears to be four additional Intel drivers to the one that came with the Slackware installation. Doing tar 'xf xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.txz' on the first bundle I found it contains the following files: install/doinst.sh install/slack.desc usr/lib/libI810XvMC.la usr/lin/libI810XvMC.so.1.0.0 usr/lib/libIntelXvMC.la usr/lib/libIntelXvMC.so.1.0.0 usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ch7017.la usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ (about 10 more driver files..). usr/man/man4/i810.4.gz usr/man/man4/intel.4.gz Is there a package manager procedure to install these type of bundles in Slackware automatically or should I just run the doinst.sh script? After installation, xorg.conf will surely need to be configured for the specific hardware/screen combination etc., but maybe 'xorgconfig', 'X -configure' or 'xorgsetup' with one of the above drivers will then work. To run a particular Slackware version or even Linux distro depending on whether a fairly standard graphics chip works with xorg or not is far from an ideal world.... Many thanks for any tips or pointers on how to do these rather complex installations procedures. Tuxedo
From: Henrik Carlqvist on 31 Dec 2009 12:38 Tuxedo <tuxedo(a)mailinator.com> wrote: > Doing tar 'xf xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.txz' on the first bundle I > found > Is there a package manager procedure to install these type of bundles in > Slackware automatically or should I just run the doinst.sh script? The way to install a package is: installpkg app-version-arch-build.txz However as you are now upgrading or at least replacing a currently installed package you should instead: upgradepkg --install-new app-version-arch-build.txz With the switch --install-new upgradepkg works for installing new packages as well as replacing already installed packages. > To run a particular Slackware version or even Linux distro depending on > whether a fairly standard graphics chip works with xorg or not is far from > an ideal world.... The problem in this case comes from the lack of standard when it comes to graphics chips. During the time intel has made different changes and improvements to their chipsets. These changes have also required changes in the drivers, older drivers does not work with newer chipsets. Unfortunately newer drivers also does not work with older chipsets. Even more unfortunate, the driver still keeps the same old name "intel". As things now are it would be better with different drivers for different intel chipsets where the drivers with different names all could be installed at the same time and correctly selected by matchin the name with the PCI ID. However, I don't want to complain about intel, at least this is a company which realizes the advantage of releasing the source for their drivers. regards Henrik -- The address in the header is only to prevent spam. My real address is: hc3(at)poolhem.se Examples of addresses which go to spammers: root(a)localhost postmaster(a)localhost
From: Tuxedo on 31 Dec 2009 14:37 Henrik Carlqvist wrote: > Tuxedo <tuxedo(a)mailinator.com> wrote: > > Doing tar 'xf xf86-video-intel-2.5.1-i486-1.txz' on the first bundle I > > found > > > Is there a package manager procedure to install these type of bundles in > > Slackware automatically or should I just run the doinst.sh script? > > The way to install a package is: > > installpkg app-version-arch-build.txz > > However as you are now upgrading or at least replacing a currently > installed package you should instead: > > upgradepkg --install-new app-version-arch-build.txz > > With the switch --install-new upgradepkg works for installing new packages > as well as replacing already installed packages. > > > To run a particular Slackware version or even Linux distro depending on > > whether a fairly standard graphics chip works with xorg or not is far > > from an ideal world.... > > The problem in this case comes from the lack of standard when it comes to > graphics chips. During the time intel has made different changes and > improvements to their chipsets. These changes have also required changes > in the drivers, older drivers does not work with newer chipsets. > Unfortunately newer drivers also does not work with older chipsets. Even > more unfortunate, the driver still keeps the same old name "intel". As > things now are it would be better with different drivers for different > intel chipsets where the drivers with different names all could be > installed at the same time and correctly selected by matchin the name with > the PCI ID. > > However, I don't want to complain about intel, at least this is a company > which realizes the advantage of releasing the source for their drivers. > > regards Henrik As mentioned, DRI works on 12.2 with an old Knoppix xorg.conf file. However, sometimes, but only rarely, after logging out of a graphical interface the text on the screen flickers as if the card had to work double shifts. Perhaps the i810 driver in Slackware 12.2 isn't working entirely as it should in combination with the xorg.conf options created for the different Knoppix system and for use with possibly a different version i810 driver or the 12.2 built-in driver isn't the right one for the particular hardware I have, who knows? Yet, the desktop is very speedy. All KDE 3D screensavers etc. work perfectly! The 13.0 still hasn't been fixed and I will try different drivers from the 13.0 'extra' repositary with --install-new upgradepkg procedure and thereafter experiment with the xorg.conf for each one on both systems, as I now have Slackware 12.2 as well as Slackware 13.0 running on different partitions of the same drive. Again, anyone who happens to have a functional xorg example or just the relevants parts that define DRI and who can post them here would be most helpful. The type of hardware used is an Intel on-board 82852/8255 GM Graphics Controller and screen 1024x768 True Color (60 Hz). Although in the display preferences in KDE as well as XFCE can be toggled up to 85 Hz and of course various values below. Tuxedo
From: Murat D. Kadirov on 31 Dec 2009 15:33
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:37:23PM +0100, Tuxedo wrote: > Again, anyone who happens to have a functional xorg example or just the > relevants parts that define DRI and who can post them here would be most > helpful. The type of hardware used is an Intel on-board 82852/8255 GM > Graphics Controller and screen 1024x768 True Color (60 Hz). Although in the > display preferences in KDE as well as XFCE can be toggled up to 85 Hz and > of course various values below. I suggest upgrade your kernel to 2.6.31/32. AFAIK, 2.6.29 kernel has many problems with Intel drivers in Linux. Upgrading to the 2.6.31 has helped me with frequent Xorg' crashes after resume from suspend-to-ram. I have: root(a)apollo:/home/murat# lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) But anyway, I think upgrading will help you. 2.6.29 kernel was bad kernel in many way and it does not supported anymore. -- Murat D. Kadirov PGP fingerprint: 3081 EBFA 5CB9 BD24 4DB6 76EE 1B97 0A0E CEC0 6AA0 |