Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States
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From: John Burton on 4 Dec 2009 14:00 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Savian <savian.net(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Move the graphic into a different category and make it a political > map. Every state has 2 senators and therefore the graphic can show the > possible impact on the Senate on rising unemployment. > > I don't want to make this political, at all, just showing that > population density is not the only factor to consider. It depends on > what you want to pull out of it. > Alan, I guess this just goes to show that the simple progression that Andrew wanted to share with us can morph into just about anything with enough contributors. 8-0 -- Best Cheers, Ray Burton Richmond VA / Chattanooga TN
From: Sigurd Hermansen on 4 Dec 2009 16:52 In a West Nile Virus study, we saw a different diffusion pattern as large numbers of persons with detectable levels of WNV antibodies (indicating recent infection) spread in a wave across the US in a matter of matter of months. I don't believe that the population base in each geographic area has that much to do with geographic diffusion patterns. I'd say that the displays of diffusion of unemployment across the US could be improved by redistributing unemployment rates on a scale with intervals above 10% and by shading the colors darker in states that have higher mean wage rates. I suspect that relatively low mean wage rates in mid-West and Rocky Mountain states deter unemployed persons from moving there to find work. Also, shading would show that higher unemployment rates in high wage states indicate a greater decline in GDP than higher unemployment rates in low wage states. S -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Powell Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:46 AM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States Classic example of a bad graph: because it reports area of unemployment without population density, and as a consequence is misleading. Rgds
From: Philip Rack on 4 Dec 2009 18:43 Sorry to tag on to Sigs, reply but here's another infographic. This one, from eBay. http://www.ebayholiday.com/black-friday What I take from this is that the seller heavy rural areas (areas are in yellow) are pretty good at dumping their stash on to the more suburban areas (in the red). Philip Rack MineQuest, LLC SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller Tel: (614) 457-3714 Web: www.MineQuest.com Blog: www.MineQuest.com/WordPress -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sigurd Hermansen Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:52 PM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States In a West Nile Virus study, we saw a different diffusion pattern as large numbers of persons with detectable levels of WNV antibodies (indicating recent infection) spread in a wave across the US in a matter of matter of months. I don't believe that the population base in each geographic area has that much to do with geographic diffusion patterns. I'd say that the displays of diffusion of unemployment across the US could be improved by redistributing unemployment rates on a scale with intervals above 10% and by shading the colors darker in states that have higher mean wage rates. I suspect that relatively low mean wage rates in mid-West and Rocky Mountain states deter unemployed persons from moving there to find work. Also, shading would show that higher unemployment rates in high wage states indicate a greater decline in GDP than higher unemployment rates in low wage states. S -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Powell Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:46 AM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States Classic example of a bad graph: because it reports area of unemployment without population density, and as a consequence is misleading. Rgds
From: Arthur Tabachneck on 4 Dec 2009 21:31 Phil, I REALLY think that we've spent too much bandwidth on this thread. However, since you brought up another example, this one I don't like (although it definitely grabs one's attention). No, I think your conclusion is wrong, as the graph simply appears to show population densities, rather than proportion of population buying (and, one has to wait to see buying trends before realizing they are just seeing a substitute for population counts). I already knew where most people live. Art --------- On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:43:44 -0500, Philip Rack <PhilRack(a)MINEQUEST.COM> wrote: >Sorry to tag on to Sigs, reply but here's another infographic. This one, >from eBay. > >http://www.ebayholiday.com/black-friday > >What I take from this is that the seller heavy rural areas (areas are in >yellow) are pretty good at dumping their stash on to the more suburban areas >(in the red). > >Philip Rack >MineQuest, LLC >SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller >Tel: (614) 457-3714 >Web: www.MineQuest.com >Blog: www.MineQuest.com/WordPress > > >-----Original Message----- >From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sigurd >Hermansen >Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:52 PM >To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States > >In a West Nile Virus study, we saw a different diffusion pattern as large >numbers of persons with detectable levels of WNV antibodies (indicating >recent infection) spread in a wave across the US in a matter of matter of >months. I don't believe that the population base in each geographic area has >that much to do with geographic diffusion patterns. > >I'd say that the displays of diffusion of unemployment across the US could >be improved by redistributing unemployment rates on a scale with intervals >above 10% and by shading the colors darker in states that have higher mean >wage rates. I suspect that relatively low mean wage rates in mid-West and >Rocky Mountain states deter unemployed persons from moving there to find >work. Also, shading would show that higher unemployment rates in high wage >states indicate a greater decline in GDP than higher unemployment rates in >low wage states. >S > >-----Original Message----- >From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben >Powell >Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:46 AM >To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Graphic of Unemployment in the United States > >Classic example of a bad graph: because it reports area of unemployment >without population density, and as a consequence is misleading. > >Rgds
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