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From: Gina Whipp on 22 Feb 2010 18:34 jenniferspnc, Is the below query what the Parent form is based on? SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, Opportunity.[Opportunity Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, Opportunity.GP, Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, Opportunity.Approval_ID, Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional Notes] FROM Opportunity; ANd I could have missed it but I didn't see where you mentioned what version of Access... -- Gina Whipp 2010 Microsoft MVP (Access) "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4137C305-DA68-446F-A8D2-C573EBE22F75(a)microsoft.com... Thanks everyone for the posts. I'll try to answer all the questions here. It is over a LAN and the form is bound to a query. I put the BE two folders down (the closest I can get) and the name is short (Oppt_be). Each user has their own FE installed on their desktop. Yes, I do compact and repair often. Using Access 2007 Yes I actually thought of it and did take off one subform at a time trying to isolate the "problem." Removing all subforms gets the form to load in about 15 seconds. But removing only one at a time may only save me like 5 seconds (so with 3 that's about 15 seconds). Not sure if it is server related but this afternoon it was only taking 30 seconds to load vs this morning 40 seconds, and I hadn't made any changes to the original. If it's not my database I'm not sure what to tell my co-workers and boss for a solution. But it's taking too much time to enter information. Thanks for the FREE advice. Truly helps me learn instead of having someone else do it for me. "Jeff Boyce" wrote: > Are you doing this over a LAN, or over a WAN? > > Is your form bound directly to the table, or to a query? And to how many > rows? > > Regards > > Jeff Boyce > Microsoft Access MVP > > -- > Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned > in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein > does not constitute endorsement thereof. > > Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no > guarantee as to suitability. > > You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer > possible/necessary. > > "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:91AC5679-CC9E-48C3-A042-9DC3B0125FAF(a)microsoft.com... > > Okay I'm back again, with the same problem, and at a loss. This is my > > 2nd > > database, and same brick wall! The loading of my form takes upwards of > > 40 > > seconds to load. I've gone through steps offered at previous posts > > (http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performancefaq.htm). > > > > I even downloaded a template database (sales pipeline) from Microsoft > > and > > once split it slowed down dramatically as well...takes a solid minute to > > load > > their form. Could that suggest that my database design is solely not > > the > > problem and perhaps the network doesn't help? > > > > Details of my database: My form pulls off a query (query takes about 10 > > seconds for 20 records), SQL is > > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, > > Opportunity.[Opportunity > > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, > > Opportunity.GP, > > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, > > Opportunity.Approval_ID, > > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional > > Notes] > > FROM Opportunity; > > > > I have 3 subforms but those seem to load fairly quickly when run > > individually (3-5 seconds). > > > > > > I've read, "Delete the SQL from the RecordSource and RowSource > > properties > > of > > the form, subforms, comboboxes and listboxes. Now in the Form_Load event > > load > > the appropriate SQL." I have three combo boxes, details to follow > > below. > > This may be the important piece I am missing only because I am confused > > on > > how to go about. If this is the culprit of my design could someone > > please > > help me with what the appropriate SQL that should be loaded on the Event > > page? > > > > Combo Box Details: > > Client: Control Source Client_ID/Row Source Client_Name/Row Source Type > > Table/Query > > > > Manager: Control Source AM_ID/Row Source SELECT [Account_Managers > > Query].[AM_ID], [Account_Managers Query].[Account_Manager_Name] FROM > > [Account_Managers Query] ORDER BY [Account_Manager_Name];/Row Source > > Type > > Table/Query > > > > Segment: Control Source Business_Segment/Row Source > > "Corp";"Mid";"Other"/Row Source Type Value List > > > > Please help. I hear grunts when people have to enter data into this > > database. > > > > Thanks! > > > . >
From: jenniferspnc on 22 Feb 2010 21:03 Oops, guess I missed that question...I am running Access 2007. Yes, that is the query for the parent form. I can post the code of the subforms if you think the problem might lie there. Thanks again :) "Gina Whipp" wrote: > jenniferspnc, > > Is the below query what the Parent form is based on? > > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, Opportunity.[Opportunity > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, Opportunity.GP, > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, > Opportunity.Approval_ID, > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional Notes] > FROM Opportunity; > > ANd I could have missed it but I didn't see where you mentioned what version > of Access... > > -- > Gina Whipp > 2010 Microsoft MVP (Access) > > "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors > II > > http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm > > "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4137C305-DA68-446F-A8D2-C573EBE22F75(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks everyone for the posts. I'll try to answer all the questions here. > > It is over a LAN and the form is bound to a query. > > I put the BE two folders down (the closest I can get) and the name is short > (Oppt_be). Each user has their own FE installed on their desktop. Yes, I > do > compact and repair often. > > Using Access 2007 > Yes I actually thought of it and did take off one subform at a time trying > to isolate the "problem." > Removing all subforms gets the form to load in about 15 seconds. But > removing only one at a time may only save me like 5 seconds (so with 3 > that's > about 15 seconds). > > Not sure if it is server related but this afternoon it was only taking 30 > seconds to load vs this morning 40 seconds, and I hadn't made any changes to > the original. > > If it's not my database I'm not sure what to tell my co-workers and boss for > a solution. But it's taking too much time to enter information. > > Thanks for the FREE advice. Truly helps me learn instead of having someone > else do it for me. > > > > "Jeff Boyce" wrote: > > > Are you doing this over a LAN, or over a WAN? > > > > Is your form bound directly to the table, or to a query? And to how many > > rows? > > > > Regards > > > > Jeff Boyce > > Microsoft Access MVP > > > > -- > > Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned > > in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein > > does not constitute endorsement thereof. > > > > Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no > > guarantee as to suitability. > > > > You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer > > possible/necessary. > > > > "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:91AC5679-CC9E-48C3-A042-9DC3B0125FAF(a)microsoft.com... > > > Okay I'm back again, with the same problem, and at a loss. This is my > > > 2nd > > > database, and same brick wall! The loading of my form takes upwards of > > > 40 > > > seconds to load. I've gone through steps offered at previous posts > > > (http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performancefaq.htm). > > > > > > I even downloaded a template database (sales pipeline) from Microsoft > > > and > > > once split it slowed down dramatically as well...takes a solid minute to > > > load > > > their form. Could that suggest that my database design is solely not > > > the > > > problem and perhaps the network doesn't help? > > > > > > Details of my database: My form pulls off a query (query takes about 10 > > > seconds for 20 records), SQL is > > > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > > > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, > > > Opportunity.[Opportunity > > > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, > > > Opportunity.GP, > > > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, > > > Opportunity.Approval_ID, > > > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional > > > Notes] > > > FROM Opportunity; > > > > > > I have 3 subforms but those seem to load fairly quickly when run > > > individually (3-5 seconds). > > > > > > > > > I've read, "Delete the SQL from the RecordSource and RowSource > > > properties > > > of > > > the form, subforms, comboboxes and listboxes. Now in the Form_Load event > > > load > > > the appropriate SQL." I have three combo boxes, details to follow > > > below. > > > This may be the important piece I am missing only because I am confused > > > on > > > how to go about. If this is the culprit of my design could someone > > > please > > > help me with what the appropriate SQL that should be loaded on the Event > > > page? > > > > > > Combo Box Details: > > > Client: Control Source Client_ID/Row Source Client_Name/Row Source Type > > > Table/Query > > > > > > Manager: Control Source AM_ID/Row Source SELECT [Account_Managers > > > Query].[AM_ID], [Account_Managers Query].[Account_Manager_Name] FROM > > > [Account_Managers Query] ORDER BY [Account_Manager_Name];/Row Source > > > Type > > > Table/Query > > > > > > Segment: Control Source Business_Segment/Row Source > > > "Corp";"Mid";"Other"/Row Source Type Value List > > > > > > Please help. I hear grunts when people have to enter data into this > > > database. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > . > > > > > . >
From: Gina Whipp on 22 Feb 2010 22:37 jenniferspnc, How big is this table... how many records? Seems a little slow at 15 seconds. Do you have any combo boxes on the Parent form any DLookups? And while you're at it can you post the code to the subforms? -- Gina Whipp 2010 Microsoft MVP (Access) "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4F024984-CAD4-4D78-8430-22576CF66E19(a)microsoft.com... Oops, guess I missed that question...I am running Access 2007. Yes, that is the query for the parent form. I can post the code of the subforms if you think the problem might lie there. Thanks again :) "Gina Whipp" wrote: > jenniferspnc, > > Is the below query what the Parent form is based on? > > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, > Opportunity.[Opportunity > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, > Opportunity.GP, > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, > Opportunity.Approval_ID, > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional Notes] > FROM Opportunity; > > ANd I could have missed it but I didn't see where you mentioned what > version > of Access... > > -- > Gina Whipp > 2010 Microsoft MVP (Access) > > "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors > II > > http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm > > "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4137C305-DA68-446F-A8D2-C573EBE22F75(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks everyone for the posts. I'll try to answer all the questions here. > > It is over a LAN and the form is bound to a query. > > I put the BE two folders down (the closest I can get) and the name is > short > (Oppt_be). Each user has their own FE installed on their desktop. Yes, I > do > compact and repair often. > > Using Access 2007 > Yes I actually thought of it and did take off one subform at a time trying > to isolate the "problem." > Removing all subforms gets the form to load in about 15 seconds. But > removing only one at a time may only save me like 5 seconds (so with 3 > that's > about 15 seconds). > > Not sure if it is server related but this afternoon it was only taking 30 > seconds to load vs this morning 40 seconds, and I hadn't made any changes > to > the original. > > If it's not my database I'm not sure what to tell my co-workers and boss > for > a solution. But it's taking too much time to enter information. > > Thanks for the FREE advice. Truly helps me learn instead of having > someone > else do it for me. > > > > "Jeff Boyce" wrote: > > > Are you doing this over a LAN, or over a WAN? > > > > Is your form bound directly to the table, or to a query? And to how > > many > > rows? > > > > Regards > > > > Jeff Boyce > > Microsoft Access MVP > > > > -- > > Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services > > mentioned > > in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein > > does not constitute endorsement thereof. > > > > Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no > > guarantee as to suitability. > > > > You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer > > possible/necessary. > > > > "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:91AC5679-CC9E-48C3-A042-9DC3B0125FAF(a)microsoft.com... > > > Okay I'm back again, with the same problem, and at a loss. This is my > > > 2nd > > > database, and same brick wall! The loading of my form takes upwards > > > of > > > 40 > > > seconds to load. I've gone through steps offered at previous posts > > > (http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performancefaq.htm). > > > > > > I even downloaded a template database (sales pipeline) from Microsoft > > > and > > > once split it slowed down dramatically as well...takes a solid minute > > > to > > > load > > > their form. Could that suggest that my database design is solely not > > > the > > > problem and perhaps the network doesn't help? > > > > > > Details of my database: My form pulls off a query (query takes about > > > 10 > > > seconds for 20 records), SQL is > > > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > > > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, > > > Opportunity.[Opportunity > > > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, > > > Opportunity.GP, > > > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, > > > Opportunity.Approval_ID, > > > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional > > > Notes] > > > FROM Opportunity; > > > > > > I have 3 subforms but those seem to load fairly quickly when run > > > individually (3-5 seconds). > > > > > > > > > I've read, "Delete the SQL from the RecordSource and RowSource > > > properties > > > of > > > the form, subforms, comboboxes and listboxes. Now in the Form_Load > > > event > > > load > > > the appropriate SQL." I have three combo boxes, details to follow > > > below. > > > This may be the important piece I am missing only because I am > > > confused > > > on > > > how to go about. If this is the culprit of my design could someone > > > please > > > help me with what the appropriate SQL that should be loaded on the > > > Event > > > page? > > > > > > Combo Box Details: > > > Client: Control Source Client_ID/Row Source Client_Name/Row Source > > > Type > > > Table/Query > > > > > > Manager: Control Source AM_ID/Row Source SELECT [Account_Managers > > > Query].[AM_ID], [Account_Managers Query].[Account_Manager_Name] FROM > > > [Account_Managers Query] ORDER BY [Account_Manager_Name];/Row Source > > > Type > > > Table/Query > > > > > > Segment: Control Source Business_Segment/Row Source > > > "Corp";"Mid";"Other"/Row Source Type Value List > > > > > > Please help. I hear grunts when people have to enter data into this > > > database. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > . > > > > > . >
From: DrGUI on 23 Feb 2010 10:50 Jennifer: One thing you can try is to make a copy of the BackEnd onto your local machine and see if that speeds things up. If it does then you know that it is the network that is slowing you down. Are you running SQL Server or Oracle on the BackEnd? I had a similar problem on a project that had Oracle on the BE and it was terrible slow. I converted all my Access SQL to pass-through SQL and the it sped up the application tremendously. The form load went from approximately 1-2 minutes down to a few seconds. HTH "jenniferspnc" wrote: > Okay I'm back again, with the same problem, and at a loss. This is my 2nd > database, and same brick wall! The loading of my form takes upwards of 40 > seconds to load. I've gone through steps offered at previous posts > (http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performancefaq.htm). > > I even downloaded a template database (sales pipeline) from Microsoft and > once split it slowed down dramatically as well...takes a solid minute to load > their form. Could that suggest that my database design is solely not the > problem and perhaps the network doesn't help? > > Details of my database: My form pulls off a query (query takes about 10 > seconds for 20 records), SQL is > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, Opportunity.[Opportunity > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, Opportunity.GP, > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, Opportunity.Approval_ID, > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional Notes] > FROM Opportunity; > > I have 3 subforms but those seem to load fairly quickly when run > individually (3-5 seconds). > > > I've read, "Delete the SQL from the RecordSource and RowSource properties of > the form, subforms, comboboxes and listboxes. Now in the Form_Load event load > the appropriate SQL." I have three combo boxes, details to follow below. > This may be the important piece I am missing only because I am confused on > how to go about. If this is the culprit of my design could someone please > help me with what the appropriate SQL that should be loaded on the Event page? > > Combo Box Details: > Client: Control Source Client_ID/Row Source Client_Name/Row Source Type > Table/Query > > Manager: Control Source AM_ID/Row Source SELECT [Account_Managers > Query].[AM_ID], [Account_Managers Query].[Account_Manager_Name] FROM > [Account_Managers Query] ORDER BY [Account_Manager_Name];/Row Source Type > Table/Query > > Segment: Control Source Business_Segment/Row Source > "Corp";"Mid";"Other"/Row Source Type Value List > > Please help. I hear grunts when people have to enter data into this database. > > Thanks!
From: Jeff Boyce on 23 Feb 2010 11:10
?... and the number of rows/records you are trying to 'load'? Regards Jeff Boyce Microsoft Access MVP -- Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein does not constitute endorsement thereof. Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no guarantee as to suitability. You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer possible/necessary. "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4137C305-DA68-446F-A8D2-C573EBE22F75(a)microsoft.com... > Thanks everyone for the posts. I'll try to answer all the questions here. > > It is over a LAN and the form is bound to a query. > > I put the BE two folders down (the closest I can get) and the name is > short > (Oppt_be). Each user has their own FE installed on their desktop. Yes, I > do > compact and repair often. > > Using Access 2007 > Yes I actually thought of it and did take off one subform at a time trying > to isolate the "problem." > Removing all subforms gets the form to load in about 15 seconds. But > removing only one at a time may only save me like 5 seconds (so with 3 > that's > about 15 seconds). > > Not sure if it is server related but this afternoon it was only taking 30 > seconds to load vs this morning 40 seconds, and I hadn't made any changes > to > the original. > > If it's not my database I'm not sure what to tell my co-workers and boss > for > a solution. But it's taking too much time to enter information. > > Thanks for the FREE advice. Truly helps me learn instead of having > someone > else do it for me. > > > > "Jeff Boyce" wrote: > >> Are you doing this over a LAN, or over a WAN? >> >> Is your form bound directly to the table, or to a query? And to how many >> rows? >> >> Regards >> >> Jeff Boyce >> Microsoft Access MVP >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned >> in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein >> does not constitute endorsement thereof. >> >> Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no >> guarantee as to suitability. >> >> You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer >> possible/necessary. >> >> "jenniferspnc" <jenniferspnc(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:91AC5679-CC9E-48C3-A042-9DC3B0125FAF(a)microsoft.com... >> > Okay I'm back again, with the same problem, and at a loss. This is my >> > 2nd >> > database, and same brick wall! The loading of my form takes upwards of >> > 40 >> > seconds to load. I've gone through steps offered at previous posts >> > (http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performancefaq.htm). >> > >> > I even downloaded a template database (sales pipeline) from Microsoft >> > and >> > once split it slowed down dramatically as well...takes a solid minute >> > to >> > load >> > their form. Could that suggest that my database design is solely not >> > the >> > problem and perhaps the network doesn't help? >> > >> > Details of my database: My form pulls off a query (query takes about >> > 10 >> > seconds for 20 records), SQL is >> > SELECT Opportunity.Opportunity_ID, Opportunity.Date_Today, >> > Opportunity.Business_Segement, Opportunity.Source, >> > Opportunity.[Opportunity >> > Details], Opportunity.Status, Opportunity.Opportunity_Value, >> > Opportunity.GP, >> > Opportunity.Timeframe_Months, Opportunity.Client_ID, >> > Opportunity.Approval_ID, >> > Opportunity.Client_Type, Opportunity.AM_ID, Opportunity.[Additional >> > Notes] >> > FROM Opportunity; >> > >> > I have 3 subforms but those seem to load fairly quickly when run >> > individually (3-5 seconds). >> > >> > >> > I've read, "Delete the SQL from the RecordSource and RowSource >> > properties >> > of >> > the form, subforms, comboboxes and listboxes. Now in the Form_Load >> > event >> > load >> > the appropriate SQL." I have three combo boxes, details to follow >> > below. >> > This may be the important piece I am missing only because I am confused >> > on >> > how to go about. If this is the culprit of my design could someone >> > please >> > help me with what the appropriate SQL that should be loaded on the >> > Event >> > page? >> > >> > Combo Box Details: >> > Client: Control Source Client_ID/Row Source Client_Name/Row Source >> > Type >> > Table/Query >> > >> > Manager: Control Source AM_ID/Row Source SELECT [Account_Managers >> > Query].[AM_ID], [Account_Managers Query].[Account_Manager_Name] FROM >> > [Account_Managers Query] ORDER BY [Account_Manager_Name];/Row Source >> > Type >> > Table/Query >> > >> > Segment: Control Source Business_Segment/Row Source >> > "Corp";"Mid";"Other"/Row Source Type Value List >> > >> > Please help. I hear grunts when people have to enter data into this >> > database. >> > >> > Thanks! >> >> >> . >> |