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From: Steve Hix on 16 Jan 2010 01:27
In article
<0b78f690-ddc0-4681-a762-61f8ba7c2508(a)a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Lao Ming <laomingliu(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 15, 8:53�pm, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > nospam wrote:
> > > he's right. office 2004 was powerpc only. one of office 2008's major
> > > points was that it would be universal, and your link shows exactly
> > > that.
> >
> > Is it possible that you would have some older "plug ins" that are PPC
> > only and when you invoke the Intel Word, when it tries to load those
> > plug ins, the OS intervenes and starts up Rosetta or prompts to install
> > Rosetta ?
>
> I never got to the applications themselves. I stopped the moment that
> the installer said I needed Rosetta.

Why?

All it does is let your Intel Mac run PPC-coded applications.

It's not like it's got cooties.
From: David Empson on 16 Jan 2010 02:28
Lao Ming <laomingliu(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 15, 7:01 pm, Michelle Steiner <miche...(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article
> > <834dc64c-8c22-448e-bcf0-cbe47bef6...(a)r19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Lao Ming <laoming...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't one of the major points of 10.6 to
> > > remove the PPC code?
> >
> > You're wrong. 10.6 made Rosetta an optional install, though.
>
> So you're saying removing PPC code was not the point of 10.6? What,
> then, was -- in your view? You sure like to be authoritative when all
> we're discussing is an opinion.
>
> >
> > > And wasn't one of the major points of Office 2008 that it would be
> > > written for Intel?
> >
> > Nope:
>
> Nope? If an app is universal, should 10.6 care if it has PPC code that
> is not executed?

There are some minor components of Office 2008 which are PowerPC-only,
so it is not purely Universal. (Even after installing all available
upates.)

I don't know which bit of the Installer is checking for Rosetta, but it
is possible that it is finding some PowerPC-only code in the
installation package and therefore flagging that Rosetta is required.

I can't be bothered searching for all of them again now, but there was
at least one file in /Application/Microsoft Office 2008/Office Files,
and several in /Library/Application Support/Microsoft.

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From: Mike Rosenberg on 16 Jan 2010 09:51
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> > Listing an Intel Mac in system requirements implies it is written for
> > Intel
>
> No; it means that it will run on Intel Macs, and that includes running
> under Rosetta. It does not imply that it was written for Intel.

Yes, but the fact is that Office 2008 apps are running on my Mac Pro
under Snow Leopard as 32-bit Universal apps, not running in Rosetta as
PowerPC apps.

I already had Office 2008 installed when I installed SL, though. Perhaps
the 2008 installer itself is PPC.

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From: Larry Gusaas on 16 Jan 2010 11:54
On 2010/01/16 8:22 AM Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<hirj4q$4g1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Larry Gusaas<larry.gusaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> It says it runs on Intel processors, with Mac OS 10.4.9 or later.
>>> *ANY* application that's Mac OS X native will run under Mac OS 10.4.4
>>> or later, if Rosetta is installed; it doesn't have to be written for
>>> Intel.
>>>
>>>
>> Listing an Intel Mac in system requirements implies it is written for
>> Intel
>>
> No; it means that it will run on Intel Macs, and that includes running
> under Rosetta. It does not imply that it was written for Intel.
>
>
>> Listing Mac OS X 10.4.9 or later confirms it is universal, since Snow
>> Leopard does not install Rosetta.
>>
> Snow Leopard most certainly does install Rosetta.
>

Not in a standard installation. It is an optional install.

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From: Paul Sture on 16 Jan 2010 12:38
In article <michelle-0D2114.07283716012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article
> <134e5f0e-20de-4ad1-815d-902c52e1539f(a)26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> Lao Ming <laomingliu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This doesn't say anything I didn't already know.
>
> It doesn't say that it was written for Intel. There is a difference
> between "written for Intel" and "will run on Intel".

There's also "compiled for Intel", which can mean that the code can take
advantage of newer features.

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