From: Duncan Kennedy on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2010-04-22, Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
> > Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-04-22 02:04:22 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> >>
> >> > So even the protected machines are at continuous risk, this time from
> >> > trusted, permitted updates. On top of the general lousy computer
> >> > experience caused by AV scan-caused slowdown, this really shows that
> >> > running Windows is a case of lose-lose.
> >>
> >> I don't remember where I read this, but it amused me: Failure is not an
> >> option in Windows, it is built-in.
> >
> >
> > I've come across reports of this sort of thing before with Windows - on
> > the other hand were not some 10.6 systems in trouble after an upgrade
> > recently? And this with full control of the hardware unlike Windows.
>
> As I understand it, the recent 10.6.3 update failed to update correctly if,
> and only if, you were updating from 10.6.0
>
> If you were coming from 10.6.1 or 10.6.2 then you were fine. They reissued
> the update a day or two later.
>
That's comforting to know, thanks - I'm on 10.6.2


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From: Rowland McDonnell on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
[snip]

> > Rowland.
> >
> > P.S. WFT? Just how often does Apple need to update the digital camera
> > raw compatibility wossname, eh? Seems like only last week I installed
> > v3.1.
>
> What, again?! That's twice this year, more than they've managed in the
> last two years....

Really? I've not had 10.6 that long, and I'm sure I've seen more such
updates than that. Hmm. Just looked at my archive of updaters, and I
can't see any. I'm sure I recall having trouble downloading the
stand-alone updater for the v2.7 update. Hmm.

Ah yes - mis-filed. Got it now - created 13/4/2010 on my filesystem,
that one.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> Only an idiot would claim any OS is free of Malware.
> >
> > There's none for the Manchester Atlas that I know of - and it had an OS.
> >
>
> You're right. I should have said 'Only a raging pedant would claim any OS
> is free of malware'.
>
> HTH, HAND,

Surely you mean `raving pedant'? And anyway, it'd have to be `raving
pedant or an idiot' with the `or' taking the human grammar meaning of
`and/or'.

Rowland.

P.S. WFT? Just how often does Apple need to update the digital camera
raw compatibility wossname, eh? Seems like only last week I installed
v3.1.

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From: James Dore on
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:48:35 +0100, Rowland McDonnell
<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Only an idiot would claim any OS is free of Malware.
>
> There's none for the Manchester Atlas that I know of - and it had an OS.
>

You're right. I should have said 'Only a raging pedant would claim any OS
is free of malware'.

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:30:44 +0100, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

>So there we have it. Real malware out in the wild and whilst its
>currently not spreading much, due to the Apple fanboi belief that their
>OS is immune, it might not stay that way for long.

Conversely, yesterday somewhere in the region of hundred of thousands
of Windows XP desktops were disabled by a false positive in a McAfee
corporate antivirus update, which cheerfully deleted svchost.exe, the
helper program that runs most of the Windows services. Windows often
doesn't boot after that.

So even the protected machines are at continuous risk, this time from
trusted, permitted updates. On top of the general lousy computer
experience caused by AV scan-caused slowdown, this really shows that
running Windows is a case of lose-lose.

Cheers - Jaimie
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