From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
Tim Wescott wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:34:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> > I have an absolutely ancient Weller WTCPN soldering station that is
> > disintegrating... it's probably at least 33 years old.
> >
> > I don't have any need for surface mount sophistication.
> >
> > What are people's thoughts on a cheapy replacement such as...
> >
> > Weller WLC100 Soldering Station
> >
> > ...Jim Thompson
>
> Fix it! That's what I did when mine fell apart, and I couldn't be
> happier.

What kind of soldering station would you reccommend to do the repair
work?

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From: Bill Garber on

"RST Engineering" <jweir43(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:peemn5hmks02vtijphbqkgoqn3oqe6lbe4(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:34:41 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>>I have an absolutely ancient Weller WTCPN soldering station that is
>>disintegrating... it's probably at least 33 years old.
>>
>>I don't have any need for surface mount sophistication.
>>
>>What are people's thoughts on a cheapy replacement such as...
>>
>> Weller WLC100 Soldering Station
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>
> I splurged on an Edsyn 951SX about ten years ago, and running it
> 8/5/365 I've gone through two tips in all that time.
>
> It is a real workhorse.
>
> Jim

Wow!!! Ten years ago, and they are still on the market.

Not a bad price scale either. If I was looking, I'd buy one.

Bill



From: miso on
On Feb 16, 8:01 pm, Michael Shell <ne...(a)michaelshell.org> wrote:
> I recently bought an Xytronic 168-3C that I think is a very good deal
> for the money:
>
> http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2146
>
> It is 60W, but there is a 30W handle available that fits the same
> controller. However, you can get tips down to 1/64" with the 60W handle.
> I prefer the analog temp display to digital ones which I find to be
> distracting. I also prefer the smaller diameter 30W/60W Xytronic handles
> over that of an (older) Weller model I once used.
>
> It uses a very fast heat up nichrome heater and isolated 24VAC zero
> voltage switching with grounded tip. It also has a long (4ft) silicone
> (burn resistant) handle cord.
>
> Many tips are available (Xytronics 415 series) at a reasonable cost:
>
>  401 1/32" conical bevel
>  402 1/32" semi-chisel
>  403 1/64" sharp
>  404 1/16" conical chisel
>  405  1/8" semi-chisel
>  406 3/64" long conical chisel
>  410 3/16" chisel
>  411 3/16" chisel 45 degree
>  430 7/32" 5mm SMD blade
>  438   4mm SMD hoof, chisel 45 degree
>  439   3mm SMD hoof, 4mm chisel 45 degree
>  440   2mm tapered SMD hoof
>  443   3mm SMD hoof, 45 degree bevel "mini-wave"
>
> Note the 443 is a special "mini-wave" tip for use with solder ball
> dragging:http://forums.parallax.com/forums/pr.aspx?f=15&m=298151
>
> The 404 is the standard 1/16" chisel tip included with new units.
>
> These 415 tips are available with a J suffix for an extra thick
> iron cladding for extra life and are probably worth it (50% more
> cost, 100%+ more life):
>
> http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=3044http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=3025
>
> The 60W replacement handle is the 207ESD:
>
> http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2156
>
> and the 30W is the 206ESD:
>
> http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2154
>
> which uses the smaller 413 series tips:
>
> http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/category.aspx?catid=149
>
> Jameco carries the regular tips as well as replacement heaters
> (XY37) and handles (XY48) for a very reasonable price:
>
> http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c101/P165.pdf
>
> I don't know how the Jameco XY48 handle compares to the 207ESD.
>
> One fellow really gave the 168-3C a rave review (note the newer
> models are 60W not 40W):
>
> http://store.guitarfetish.com/xyniprsost0w.html
>
> "it changed my life!" LOL.
>
> Anyway, I've been happy too with the 168-3C so far.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Mike Shell

Key question is where is the soldering iron made. If it is sourced
from China, run.
From: Jim Yanik on
"Phil Allison" <phil_a(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in
news:7u0phsFtsU1(a)mid.individual.net:

>
> "Jim Yanik"
>
>> here's some user reviews;
>> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/5066
>>
>> It says the iron (at the tip) is UNgrounded.That's not good.
>
>
> ** That model appears to only on sale in the USA and Canada. With the
> AC supply connected direct to the heater and no safety ground it would
> likely not pass safety standards that are compulsory for such irons in
> most places.
>
> That aside, low voltage irons operating via isolation transformers (
> plus electronics) can safely be left with no earth on the iron -
> and it is often desirable to do so.

This model is NOT a "low voltage" iron.
In fact,you can plug in any 120VAC iron and control it,the base is just a
triac controller,like a lamp dimmer. If you plug in a -grounded iron-,it
will be actually grounded.
>
> In fact, it is dangerous to have an earthed iron when servicing
> electronic equipment cos of the very great risk that it would be
> accidentally applied to a circuit which is still energised.
>
>
>
> .... Phil
>

What DUMBASS solders on circuits that are energized? How safe is that?

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From: TheM on
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns9D22580715F5Ejyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44...
> "Phil Allison" <phil_a(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in
> news:7u0phsFtsU1(a)mid.individual.net:
>>
>> In fact, it is dangerous to have an earthed iron when servicing
>> electronic equipment cos of the very great risk that it would be
>> accidentally applied to a circuit which is still energised.
>>
>>
>>
>> .... Phil
>>
>
> What DUMBASS solders on circuits that are energized? How safe is that?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik

I do sometimes, of course only when you know what you're doing and circuits are powered from low DC. I agree 99% of the time it is
stupid.

M