From: Cesar Rabak on
Marco escreveu:
> On Oct 15, 1:53 am, "Marc Hillman" <7owsx1...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a Statechart (Harel) tool that supports C code generation,
>> and is free (not trial copies). Any suggestions?
>
> http://www.intelliwizard.com/ GPL
It is not GPL it is "Dual Licensing" very different!!

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From: Mel on
Cesar Rabak wrote:

> Chris H escreveu:
>> In message <hbt1hj$411$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Cesar Rabak
>> <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> writes
>>> Dan Henry escreveu:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:53:35 +1100, "Marc Hillman"
>>>> <7owsx1j02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for a Statechart (Harel) tool that supports C code
>>>>> generation, and is free (not trial copies). Any suggestions?
>>>> IAR's visualSTATE http://www.iar.com/vs
>>>>
>>> But it is not free, is it?
>>
>> Nothing in this life is free.
>>
> This affirmation is a fallacy that gives opportunity to another very
> interesting thread ;-)

ghod no! Not that interesting thread again!



From: Cesar Rabak on
Mel escreveu:
> Cesar Rabak wrote:
>
>> Chris H escreveu:
>>> In message <hbt1hj$411$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Cesar Rabak
>>> <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> writes
>>>> Dan Henry escreveu:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:53:35 +1100, "Marc Hillman"
>>>>> <7owsx1j02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking for a Statechart (Harel) tool that supports C code
>>>>>> generation, and is free (not trial copies). Any suggestions?
>>>>> IAR's visualSTATE http://www.iar.com/vs
>>>>>
>>>> But it is not free, is it?
>>> Nothing in this life is free.
>>>
>> This affirmation is a fallacy that gives opportunity to another very
>> interesting thread ;-)
>
> ghod no! Not that interesting thread again!
>
As I wrote 'gives opportunity' but I don't intend to profit from it :-D


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From: Marc Hillman on
Thanks for your comments Miro. It is amazing how quickly a thread can
descend down a rabit hole, and the original question get lost.

I have been programming, professionally, with Harel Statecharts for 10
years, in an Avionics environment. I have an exceptionally good
understanding of Statecharts. I'm used to an enviromnent with animation, and
the ability to connect models to real hardware.

What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the rich environment I'm
used to in aerospace industry, but accessable to your average hobbiest, as
I'm in that mode now. What I'm after is a statechart drawing tool that
supports the full statechart notation, including concurrent states, so I can
design my software. I have your book, but the Visio templates provided are a
bit manual for my liking, and I still haven't worked out why they are
needed - the Visio ones seem smarter. I'd like a system with some
completeness/correctness checking. It also has to be free. I'd also like it
to be possible, if I decided to do so, to 'autocode' from the statecharts to
QP (C). It's a bit tedious transcribing the drawn statecharts into C, but
I'm happy to do this if autocode is not feasible.

I'm still looking, so any suggestions for a Statechart tool welcome.

"ql" <miro(a)quantum-leaps.com> wrote in message
news:3bc0ec1b-55a0-437a-a1f9-1729b8100666(a)z34g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
Since this forum mentions my book ("Practical Statecharts in C/C++")
and the website (www.state-machine.com), I'd like to clarify some
misconceptions about state machines, UML, and tools.


From: Chris H on
In message <o1n6e5hdjdj9j7etemufal9s0d8f9h9dl1(a)4ax.com>, Jon Kirwan
<jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> writes
>On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:04:32 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <T4KdnXOGUPe8Sn_XnZ2dnUVZ8ludnZ2d(a)lyse.net>, David Brown
>><david.brown(a)hesbynett.removethisbit.no> writes
>>>Chris H wrote:
>>>> In message <hbt1hj$411$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Cesar Rabak
>>>> <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> writes
>>>>> Dan Henry escreveu:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:53:35 +1100, "Marc Hillman"
>>>>>> <7owsx1j02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm looking for a Statechart (Harel) tool that supports C code
>>>>>>> generation, and is free (not trial copies). Any suggestions?
>>>>>> IAR's visualSTATE http://www.iar.com/vs
>>>>>>
>>>>> But it is not free, is it?
>>>> Nothing in this life is free.
>>>>
>>>Perhaps you should find yourself a better life?
>>
>>I have a very good life.
>
>:)
>
>>It is based in reality.
>
>Most people believe that. It's generally false.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Species-Denial-Jeremy-Griffith/dp/1741290015
>
>Jon

And you Jon are a typical example apparently. At least according to the
people who know you.

Now, where are these stats comparing Keil and SDCC you made such a bit
thing about? You said I was totally wrong, anything I said was false
and I was completely unprofessional and you would prove it with the help
of the many friends you had... That was over 6 months ago and you have
failed to provide any evidence to back up your claims.

An apology would be nice though I don't expect to get one as you live in
an altered reality.


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