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From: Jim Thompson on 13 Jul 2010 23:37 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:32:14 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:56:57 -0700, Jon Kirwan ><jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote: > >>On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:24:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>No clue what 'OLE' is >> >>You've missed out on Microsoft culture! It is "Object >>Linking and Embedded" and is related to the IOleObject >>interface. >> >>Jon > >PADS uses OLE to dynamically connect their schematic and a PCB layout >programs. Make a change on one and it's instantly made on the other. >Enabling OLE is guaranteed to corrupt the schematic, the layout, or >both. > >One of my layout guys who liked to use the PADS OLE gave me a >schematic to check. In the middle of sheet 9 was a color picture of >his girlfriend. I didn't know that PADS-Logic could even incorporate >photos. I tried to delete and it wouldn't. Turns out it was 12 copies >deep, and if you kept at it, it would eventually go away. I can't >imagine how she would have appeared on a netlist. > >John How many ports ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama isn't going to raise your taxes...it's Bush' fault: Not re- newing the Bush tax cuts will increase the bottom tier rate by 50%
From: Jon Kirwan on 14 Jul 2010 00:45 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:32:14 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:56:57 -0700, Jon Kirwan ><jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote: > >>On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:24:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>No clue what 'OLE' is >> >>You've missed out on Microsoft culture! It is "Object >>Linking and Embedded" and is related to the IOleObject >>interface. >> >>Jon > >PADS uses OLE to dynamically connect their schematic and a PCB layout >programs. Make a change on one and it's instantly made on the other. >Enabling OLE is guaranteed to corrupt the schematic, the layout, or >both. > >One of my layout guys who liked to use the PADS OLE gave me a >schematic to check. In the middle of sheet 9 was a color picture of >his girlfriend. I didn't know that PADS-Logic could even incorporate >photos. I tried to delete and it wouldn't. Turns out it was 12 copies >deep, and if you kept at it, it would eventually go away. I can't >imagine how she would have appeared on a netlist. A 2-edged sword, as I wrote. And in many other ways, as well. Jon
From: Spehro Pefhany on 14 Jul 2010 07:29 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:32:14 -0700, the renowned John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:56:57 -0700, Jon Kirwan ><jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote: > >>On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:24:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>No clue what 'OLE' is >> >>You've missed out on Microsoft culture! It is "Object >>Linking and Embedded" and is related to the IOleObject >>interface. >> >>Jon > >PADS uses OLE to dynamically connect their schematic and a PCB layout >programs. Make a change on one and it's instantly made on the other. >Enabling OLE is guaranteed to corrupt the schematic, the layout, or >both. > >One of my layout guys who liked to use the PADS OLE gave me a >schematic to check. In the middle of sheet 9 was a color picture of >his girlfriend. I didn't know that PADS-Logic could even incorporate >photos. I tried to delete and it wouldn't. Turns out it was 12 copies >deep, and if you kept at it, it would eventually go away. I can't >imagine how she would have appeared on a netlist. > >John Love connection? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: Jon Kirwan on 14 Jul 2010 12:10 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:17:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ><snip> >Balmer should be locked up for that. ><snip> Balmer should be locked up, but not for that. ;) I had a short discussion with him during a lunch break some years ago after a presentation he made here in Portland. I rephrased what I'd just seen him telling us as a group, but turning it inside out and explaining it in very different terms and then asked him, "So is that the upshot of what you just said out there?" He paused, then finally admitted, "Yes, I suppose so." The admission wasn't even close to the Gilded Lily version I'd just heard in public. I wasn't happy to have had my worst impressions so readily confirmed, perhaps in such a weak moment near the buffet over a cup of coffee. And it had something to do with why I concentrated much more on another course, started in earnest almost that very day. It was a bit of a life-changer conversation, I guess, for one person. Jon
From: Joel Koltner on 14 Jul 2010 12:43
Jon Kirwan wrote: > I had a short discussion with him during a lunch break some > years ago after a presentation he made here in Portland. I > rephrased what I'd just seen him telling us as a group, but > turning it inside out and explaining it in very different > terms and then asked him, "So is that the upshot of what you > just said out there?" > > He paused, then finally admitted, "Yes, I suppose so." The > admission wasn't even close to the Gilded Lily version I'd > just heard in public. Balmer's job is to essentially take anything that smells like rotten eggs within Microsoft and present it, instead, as a basket full of roses. :-) I mean, he really is the consummate salesman. :-) > I wasn't happy to have had my worst impressions so readily > confirmed, perhaps in such a weak moment near the buffet over > a cup of coffee. Hey, at least he's honest! If you had to share a room with your choise of Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, or Steve Ballmer, how would you order them? ---Joel |