Support for XP
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From: Shoe on 23 Jul 2010 07:57 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:48:16 -0400, Shoe wrote: > >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric >> <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:35:34 -0400, Shoe wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone know how long Microsoft plans to continue support for XP >>>> Service Pack 3? I have one computer I have not upgraded to 7 yet even >>>> though I bought 7 for it last fall. I will definitely upgrade when >>>> support is discontinued. >>> >>>XP SP3 support continues until mid-2014, IIRC. However, if the >>>machine's hardware specs meet (better that they exceed) W7's minimums, >>>why not upgrade it now instead of waiting? Or set up a dual boot? >>> >>>Stef >> I've been dragging my heels because this is not the computer I use and >> I'm afraid of missing something when I transfer the files. The hardware >> is well able to run 7. I have decided to buy a new HDD and clone the >> existing drive before installing 7. I think it's not a bad idea to >> start with a new drive and that way I can keep the contents of the >> existing C: drive. > >Why do you need to clone the XP drive? Just install it as a slave drive >in your system with W7 on the new drive, then you'll still have access to >all your XP files. And/or set up a dual boot. Or are you using the >"upgrade" DVD of W7? FYI: It is possible to do a clean install of W7 >with the "upgrade" version. A Google search will get you the procedures. > >Stef I am using the upgrade version. I looked at the procedures for using the upgrade disc on a clean install and decided that cloning the drive would be the easiest way to do the install. I've cloned drives before using Acronis and it's basically a matter of starting the program and walking away until it finishes. I have external enclosures I can use to temporarily install the drive to clone to.
From: Stefan Patric on 23 Jul 2010 13:11 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:57:26 -0400, Shoe wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric > <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:48:16 -0400, Shoe wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric >>> <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:35:34 -0400, Shoe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone know how long Microsoft plans to continue support for XP >>>>> Service Pack 3? I have one computer I have not upgraded to 7 yet >>>>> even though I bought 7 for it last fall. I will definitely upgrade >>>>> when support is discontinued. >>>> >>>>XP SP3 support continues until mid-2014, IIRC. However, if the >>>>machine's hardware specs meet (better that they exceed) W7's minimums, >>>>why not upgrade it now instead of waiting? Or set up a dual boot? >>>> >>>>Stef >>> I've been dragging my heels because this is not the computer I use and >>> I'm afraid of missing something when I transfer the files. The >>> hardware is well able to run 7. I have decided to buy a new HDD and >>> clone the existing drive before installing 7. I think it's not a bad >>> idea to start with a new drive and that way I can keep the contents of >>> the existing C: drive. >> >>Why do you need to clone the XP drive? Just install it as a slave drive >>in your system with W7 on the new drive, then you'll still have access >>to all your XP files. And/or set up a dual boot. Or are you using the >>"upgrade" DVD of W7? FYI: It is possible to do a clean install of W7 >>with the "upgrade" version. A Google search will get you the >>procedures. >> >>Stef > I am using the upgrade version. I looked at the procedures for using > the upgrade disc on a clean install and decided that cloning the drive > would be the easiest way to do the install. I've cloned drives before > using Acronis and it's basically a matter of starting the program and > walking away until it finishes. I have external enclosures I can use to > temporarily install the drive to clone to. I've never had good success with "upgrading" either with Windows or Linux or BSD. Most of the time, the systems ended up broken in some way, but fixable in most cases, or just didn't work at all. Of course, I haven't tried "upgrading" in 5 or 6 years. Things probably have improved. At least, if your upgrade to 7 doesn't work, you do have the option of a clean install from the same DVD. Stef
From: Shoe on 24 Jul 2010 09:00 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:57:26 -0400, Shoe wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric >> <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:48:16 -0400, Shoe wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric >>>> <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:35:34 -0400, Shoe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know how long Microsoft plans to continue support for XP >>>>>> Service Pack 3? I have one computer I have not upgraded to 7 yet >>>>>> even though I bought 7 for it last fall. I will definitely upgrade >>>>>> when support is discontinued. >>>>> >>>>>XP SP3 support continues until mid-2014, IIRC. However, if the >>>>>machine's hardware specs meet (better that they exceed) W7's minimums, >>>>>why not upgrade it now instead of waiting? Or set up a dual boot? >>>>> >>>>>Stef >>>> I've been dragging my heels because this is not the computer I use and >>>> I'm afraid of missing something when I transfer the files. The >>>> hardware is well able to run 7. I have decided to buy a new HDD and >>>> clone the existing drive before installing 7. I think it's not a bad >>>> idea to start with a new drive and that way I can keep the contents of >>>> the existing C: drive. >>> >>>Why do you need to clone the XP drive? Just install it as a slave drive >>>in your system with W7 on the new drive, then you'll still have access >>>to all your XP files. And/or set up a dual boot. Or are you using the >>>"upgrade" DVD of W7? FYI: It is possible to do a clean install of W7 >>>with the "upgrade" version. A Google search will get you the >>>procedures. >>> >>>Stef >> I am using the upgrade version. I looked at the procedures for using >> the upgrade disc on a clean install and decided that cloning the drive >> would be the easiest way to do the install. I've cloned drives before >> using Acronis and it's basically a matter of starting the program and >> walking away until it finishes. I have external enclosures I can use to >> temporarily install the drive to clone to. > >I've never had good success with "upgrading" either with Windows or Linux >or BSD. Most of the time, the systems ended up broken in some way, but >fixable in most cases, or just didn't work at all. Of course, I haven't >tried "upgrading" in 5 or 6 years. Things probably have improved. > >At least, if your upgrade to 7 doesn't work, you do have the option of a >clean install from the same DVD. > >Stef The "upgrade" actually does format the drive. However, there must be a genuine version of XP installed on the drive for it to work. I bought it about a year ago when Microsoft was offering a prebuy for $49.
From: Stefan Patric on 24 Jul 2010 12:36
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:00:58 -0400, Shoe wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric > <not(a)this.address.com> wrote: > > [snip] > >>I've never had good success with "upgrading" either with Windows or >>Linux or BSD. Most of the time, the systems ended up broken in some >>way, but fixable in most cases, or just didn't work at all. Of course, >>I haven't tried "upgrading" in 5 or 6 years. Things probably have >>improved. >> >>At least, if your upgrade to 7 doesn't work, you do have the option of a >>clean install from the same DVD. >> >>Stef > The "upgrade" actually does format the drive. However, there must be a > genuine version of XP installed on the drive for it to work. I bought > it about a year ago when Microsoft was offering a prebuy for $49. That's not what I'd call an "upgrade." The formatting will "clean" your drive wiping out everything. To me, an "upgrade" preserves your partitions, data, apps, configuration files, etc. and only replaces the OS with the newer version. In any case, after your "upgrade" be sure to fully update your system. I'm sure there have been lots of "fixes" to W7 since you got the pre-buy disk. Stef |