From: vjp2.at on
Are surge protectors based on grounding or diode clipping?




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From: Jim Yanik on
vjp2.at(a)at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote in
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> Are surge protectors based on grounding or diode clipping?


grounding. once the breakover voltage is reached,the surge is conducted to
ground.

Otherwise,the surge would just find it's own way to ground,through your
device,catastrophically. and you have to have a good ground,as grounds can
float above true ground,particularly in poor soils,like Florida's sandy
soil.

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From: whit3rd on
On May 26, 2:09 am, vjp2...(a)at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> Are surge protectors based on grounding or diode clipping?

Both. Most surge suppressors have a conducts-on-overvoltage
element directly across the line, with a fuse or circuit breaker to
keep the fire hazard low. Additional elements that connect to the
protective ground pin are of secondary importance.

The conducts-on-overvoltage element is usually a metal oxide
varistor, a kind of crude semiconductor breakover diode.
From: vjp2.at on
Thanks for both replies.


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From: GregS on
In article <f026ebce-f1d8-4dc2-83f3-4847ef4dcf64(a)o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, whit3rd <whit3rd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 2:09=A0am, vjp2...(a)at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>> Are surge protectors based on grounding or diode clipping?
>
>Both. Most surge suppressors have a conducts-on-overvoltage
>element directly across the line, with a fuse or circuit breaker to
>keep the fire hazard low. Additional elements that connect to the
>protective ground pin are of secondary importance.

I would argue that. The differential surpressor is fine, but the common
mode surge can do more harm and a lot of noise problems. Using an isolation transformer
makes common mode problems impossible. Its a direct short to ground.

greg


>The conducts-on-overvoltage element is usually a metal oxide
>varistor, a kind of crude semiconductor breakover diode.