Suse - Partition problem
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From: GSA on 4 Aug 2010 00:56 On Aug 3, 2:38 pm, houghi <hou...(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: > GSA wrote: > > After reading all these suggestions, i went ahead and installed suse > > on 50GB. I first deleted that partition, then in /sda, pressed Create > > and created 'Primary' partition. Then it asked me about swap. I said i > > donot want any sway. After this installation succeeded. Yippeeeeeee > > So after reading our sugestions, you decided not to follow them. > > > I now have 7GB wasted. looking for merging it with my linux. One more > > thing is , I want WinXP default boot. Checking how to tweek that too. > > Because you did not follow our sugestion, you have no swap, no seperate > /home and 7GB wasted. All you needed to do was delete that partition. > And even then, why create 50GB if 57GB was available? > > About the boot: first start looking into YaST. There is a lot that can > be configured there. > Then, YaST, System, Boot loader. Select Windows and click "Set as > Default" > > houghi > -- > It's people. Source code is made out of people! They're making our > source out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle > for code. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them! I deleted that partition as said. But after that was able to add/ Create only one partition, not more than that. I tried all ways, for amost 10days, in vain. So went ahead. I kept aside 7GB for emergency needs. I really did not mean not to follow u. Sorry if I have offended you in any ways :-( Regards, GSA
From: JT on 4 Aug 2010 04:41 On 03/08/10 20:08, Eef Hartman wrote: > David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: > >> That what I am curious about as well. Why delete a 57GB partition but >> only create a 50GB one in its place when to do so would require a >> deliberate decision to not use all of the available free space. >> > He _should_ use the other 7 GB to create the swap partition he did NOT > make. Swap is always usefull, especially when you wnat to use "suspend > to disk" or such. > Agree, but 7GB might be a 'bit' over the top (unless you have that much memory in your desktop). I use 1.5 or 2 times physical memory for swap, unless phys.mem.>2GB - then just the same as swap. -- Kind regards, JT
From: David Bolt on 4 Aug 2010 08:36 On Tuesday 03 Aug 2010 22:57, while playing with a tin of spray paint, mjt painted this mural: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:55:15 +0100 > David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: > >> Another curiosity is about not wanting any swap. I have a 4GB system, >> and which unfortunately can't take any more, and it needs swap space. >> It doesn't take very long before Firefox, Konqueror and other memory >> hungry applications are using up enough to make the system unusable >> without swap. > > Hmmm. I currently have running on my desktop (KDE): > Chromium, Firefox (only running FF to try to induce > VMEM) OpenOffice Writer, Claws Mail, a couple of > Konsoles open, and Picasa 3.6 (via WINE). I run > "vmstat" and we see: swpd=0 swap si=0 so=0 That's seriously lightweight compared to mine. I have 18 desktops all in use. My present stats are: davjam(a)moray:~/download> uptime ; echo ; free -t ; echo ; vmstat 13:25 up 22:46, 59 users, load average: 0.37, 0.33, 0.35 total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 4057232 3694232 363000 0 27288 1220900 -/+ buffers/cache: 2446044 1611188 Swap: 4466060 1358084 3107976 Total: 8523292 5052316 3470976 procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- -----cpu------ r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 3 0 1358084 362876 27296 1220892 2 9 68 103 241 143 38 9 52 1 0 The main memory hogs are: Firefox, 16 windows in 74 tabs; Konqueror (file), 57 tabs in 12 windows; Konqueror (web), 10 tabs in 5 windows; Konsole, 53 tabs in 15 windows; Kmail; Knode; Amarok, 1.4.10 not 2.x; Chrome, 6 tabs in one window; Calc, 1 spreadsheet. Given another 24 hours, swap usage will probably reach the 2GB mark and, depending on how much other browsing I do, package build testing and a few other things I do, it will slowly creep up to 3GB over the next week. Interestingly, logging out from the desktop and then reloading it doesn't free up a great deal of the used memory or swap space, and it settles back to about 3GB fairly quickly. So, end results are that because of my usage, I couldn't cope without having at least 4GB of swap, and having the extra 4GB ready just in case[0] that isn't enough, means I'm fairly happy. [0] Not sure why but every so often something sucks up all the first 4GB of swap space, and then some, before giving it back. When this happens, the system starts getting a little unresponsive and, if I don't add the extra, the desktop eventually becomes unusable. With it, there is a noticeable lag but the desktop remains usable. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net | | openSUSE 11.3RC2 32b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02 | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: Christoph Schmees on 4 Aug 2010 09:50 houghi schrieb: > JT wrote: >> Agree, but 7GB might be a 'bit' over the top (unless you have that much >> memory in your desktop). I use 1.5 or 2 times physical memory for swap, >> unless phys.mem.>2GB - then just the same as swap. > > I have 8GB of memory and 2GB of swap. Two 1GB swap partitions on two > different disks. They are very rarely used. The reason for having it on > two disks is that it apparently increases the speed. > > From top: > Mem: 8194976k total, 8116052k used, 78924k free, 406328k buffers > Swap: 2104440k total, 5252k used, 2099188k free, 6146108k cached > > (OMG, why is all my memory used and nothing in swap? <Panic> ) > > houghi .... because access is about a hundred times faster than HD access? 8-) Memory is *meant to used*, and be it as cache (buffer). Linux uses available memory much more efficiently than Windoze, btw. If not used, why would you have 8MB RAM? Unused memory would mean unnecessary waste. Christoph -- email: nurfuerspam -> gmx de -> net
From: Kevin Miller on 4 Aug 2010 12:09
houghi wrote: > > (OMG, why is all my memory used and nothing in swap? <Panic> ) It's where all those exploits hide. Since anyone can see the code, anybody can find bugs and slip in malicious code. Much harder to exploit an OS you don't have the source code for! That's why I'm going back to CP/M... -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb In a recent poll, seven out of ten hard drives preferred Linux. |