From: Michael Katz [ex-MVP] on
Hi there,

A bit of a backgrounder:

I'm running Hyper-V on my SBS box, and have Win Server 08 running
virtualized. The virtual server was joined to the domain as a domain
computer and is in the Terminal Server Computers AD group. I set up the
server in order to use TS Remote Apps. I installed TS Remote Apps before I
had my CALs and was running it in the "grace period" mode.

Now the issue:

After installing the TS CALs, I noticed in Terminal Server Configuration
that I still had 5 CALs available, despite having 2 users connect. In TS
Licensing, the report that was generated today showed that 2 of the 5 CALs
were in use, but none of them seem to be issuing as permanent CALs.

In conclusion:

I'm trying to figure out why the server keeps issuing temporary CALs. From
what I can see, it doesn't seem to have much of an effect in that the CALs
renew every 2 months, but I would like to resolve this.

Thanks!

From: Silvia Doomra [MSFT] on
Hi Michael,

What is the OS Version of the license server and the TS?

Regards
Silvia
Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds

"Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
news:65E10F3A-38D6-4526-9C61-388679C45A5F(a)microsoft.com...
> Hi there,
>
> A bit of a backgrounder:
>
> I'm running Hyper-V on my SBS box, and have Win Server 08 running
> virtualized. The virtual server was joined to the domain as a domain
> computer and is in the Terminal Server Computers AD group. I set up the
> server in order to use TS Remote Apps. I installed TS Remote Apps before I
> had my CALs and was running it in the "grace period" mode.
>
> Now the issue:
>
> After installing the TS CALs, I noticed in Terminal Server Configuration
> that I still had 5 CALs available, despite having 2 users connect. In TS
> Licensing, the report that was generated today showed that 2 of the 5 CALs
> were in use, but none of them seem to be issuing as permanent CALs.
>
> In conclusion:
>
> I'm trying to figure out why the server keeps issuing temporary CALs. From
> what I can see, it doesn't seem to have much of an effect in that the CALs
> renew every 2 months, but I would like to resolve this.
>
> Thanks!
>
From: Michael Katz [ex-MVP] on
Hi Silvia,

The license server and terminal server are running on the same virtual Win
Server 08 box (it's a domain computer, not a DC), while TS Gateway is
running SBS 08 (which serves as the DC). I forgot to mention, the CAL
licensing is set to per user.

I've also been having TS Gateway problems as well, such that "Connect to..."
in RWW does not allow for a connection to listed computers.

Thanks.

Michael


"Silvia Doomra [MSFT]" <sdoomra(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uYwZVVLKKHA.1488(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Michael,
>
> What is the OS Version of the license server and the TS?
>
> Regards
> Silvia
> Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds
>
> "Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:65E10F3A-38D6-4526-9C61-388679C45A5F(a)microsoft.com...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> A bit of a backgrounder:
>>
>> I'm running Hyper-V on my SBS box, and have Win Server 08 running
>> virtualized. The virtual server was joined to the domain as a domain
>> computer and is in the Terminal Server Computers AD group. I set up the
>> server in order to use TS Remote Apps. I installed TS Remote Apps before
>> I had my CALs and was running it in the "grace period" mode.
>>
>> Now the issue:
>>
>> After installing the TS CALs, I noticed in Terminal Server Configuration
>> that I still had 5 CALs available, despite having 2 users connect. In TS
>> Licensing, the report that was generated today showed that 2 of the 5
>> CALs were in use, but none of them seem to be issuing as permanent CALs.
>>
>> In conclusion:
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out why the server keeps issuing temporary CALs.
>> From what I can see, it doesn't seem to have much of an effect in that
>> the CALs renew every 2 months, but I would like to resolve this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>

From: Silvia Doomra [MSFT] on
Hi Michael,

In Per User licensing, there is no concept of Temporary and Permanent. Its'
only in Per Device.
For Per User license request, the first connection gives the Permanent CAL.

Where did you check that your CALs are temporary ones and not Permanent?
Did you generate the report? Or in the TS Licensing Manager UI?
Can you please tell us what is the exact text you see there and at what
position?

Thanks
Silvia
Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds


"Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
news:807DCDA1-7F4B-4D69-89E6-59B726DE00B5(a)microsoft.com...
> Hi Silvia,
>
> The license server and terminal server are running on the same virtual Win
> Server 08 box (it's a domain computer, not a DC), while TS Gateway is
> running SBS 08 (which serves as the DC). I forgot to mention, the CAL
> licensing is set to per user.
>
> I've also been having TS Gateway problems as well, such that "Connect
> to..." in RWW does not allow for a connection to listed computers.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "Silvia Doomra [MSFT]" <sdoomra(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uYwZVVLKKHA.1488(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> What is the OS Version of the license server and the TS?
>>
>> Regards
>> Silvia
>> Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds
>>
>> "Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:65E10F3A-38D6-4526-9C61-388679C45A5F(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> A bit of a backgrounder:
>>>
>>> I'm running Hyper-V on my SBS box, and have Win Server 08 running
>>> virtualized. The virtual server was joined to the domain as a domain
>>> computer and is in the Terminal Server Computers AD group. I set up the
>>> server in order to use TS Remote Apps. I installed TS Remote Apps before
>>> I had my CALs and was running it in the "grace period" mode.
>>>
>>> Now the issue:
>>>
>>> After installing the TS CALs, I noticed in Terminal Server Configuration
>>> that I still had 5 CALs available, despite having 2 users connect. In TS
>>> Licensing, the report that was generated today showed that 2 of the 5
>>> CALs were in use, but none of them seem to be issuing as permanent CALs.
>>>
>>> In conclusion:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to figure out why the server keeps issuing temporary CALs.
>>> From what I can see, it doesn't seem to have much of an effect in that
>>> the CALs renew every 2 months, but I would like to resolve this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>
From: Michael Katz [ex-MVP] on
Hi Silvia,

Thanks, that certainly clarifies things.

In TS licensing manager, the report generated shows that 2 of 5 CALs are
being used, whereas in Terminal Services Config, the licensing diagnosis
shows 5 of 5 are still available.

I wasn't sure whether the CALs issued were permanent or not. I just made the
assumption that since the Config window still showed 5 of 5, they must've
been temporary.

Thanks.

Michael


"Silvia Doomra [MSFT]" <sdoomra(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%236SjslWKKHA.5956(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Michael,
>
> In Per User licensing, there is no concept of Temporary and Permanent.
> Its' only in Per Device.
> For Per User license request, the first connection gives the Permanent
> CAL.
>
> Where did you check that your CALs are temporary ones and not Permanent?
> Did you generate the report? Or in the TS Licensing Manager UI?
> Can you please tell us what is the exact text you see there and at what
> position?
>
> Thanks
> Silvia
> Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds
>
>
> "Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:807DCDA1-7F4B-4D69-89E6-59B726DE00B5(a)microsoft.com...
>> Hi Silvia,
>>
>> The license server and terminal server are running on the same virtual
>> Win Server 08 box (it's a domain computer, not a DC), while TS Gateway is
>> running SBS 08 (which serves as the DC). I forgot to mention, the CAL
>> licensing is set to per user.
>>
>> I've also been having TS Gateway problems as well, such that "Connect
>> to..." in RWW does not allow for a connection to listed computers.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> "Silvia Doomra [MSFT]" <sdoomra(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:uYwZVVLKKHA.1488(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> What is the OS Version of the license server and the TS?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Silvia
>>> Remote Desktop Services Team Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/rds
>>>
>>> "Michael Katz [ex-MVP]" <michaelk(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:65E10F3A-38D6-4526-9C61-388679C45A5F(a)microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> A bit of a backgrounder:
>>>>
>>>> I'm running Hyper-V on my SBS box, and have Win Server 08 running
>>>> virtualized. The virtual server was joined to the domain as a domain
>>>> computer and is in the Terminal Server Computers AD group. I set up the
>>>> server in order to use TS Remote Apps. I installed TS Remote Apps
>>>> before I had my CALs and was running it in the "grace period" mode.
>>>>
>>>> Now the issue:
>>>>
>>>> After installing the TS CALs, I noticed in Terminal Server
>>>> Configuration that I still had 5 CALs available, despite having 2 users
>>>> connect. In TS Licensing, the report that was generated today showed
>>>> that 2 of the 5 CALs were in use, but none of them seem to be issuing
>>>> as permanent CALs.
>>>>
>>>> In conclusion:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to figure out why the server keeps issuing temporary CALs.
>>>> From what I can see, it doesn't seem to have much of an effect in that
>>>> the CALs renew every 2 months, but I would like to resolve this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>