From: DenverD on
> anyway, there is pleasure in having a 'solution' even if it's a bit of a
> contraption.
>
> any thoughts?

it is always best to begin with hardware known to work with the OS you
want to use....buy a machine with Redmond installed and you will often
have bumps and problems....otoh Dell, HP and a few others sell
hardware made for and installed with industrial strength operating
systems....pick up and one and enjoy the ride.

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#1 SMP i686 athlon
From: DenverD on
> but it was a bargain!

yep, so is a Lada!

save up front and spend how many hours trying to make a good system
work right...and, sometimes in the end be forever tied to
ring-in-the-nose software..

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KDE 3.5.7 "release 72-11", openSUSE Linux 10.3, 2.6.22.19-0.4-default
#1 SMP i686 athlon
From: felmon on
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:14:38 +0100, DenverD wrote:

>> but it was a bargain!
>
> yep, so is a Lada!
>
> save up front and spend how many hours trying to make a good system work
> right...and, sometimes in the end be forever tied to ring-in-the-nose
> software..

or save up front and get a system that works well - also a possibility.

I would never be 'forever tied to ring-in-the-nose software' (though I
love the expression!) as I scout out the return policy.

just got full refund tonight, the only question asked was, 'why?' and the
answer given was 'not suitable to purpose,' schluß, finito, end of
conversation.

I am probably going to build a system, which also takes time, mostly to
read up on good mainboards; I haven't built in several yrs.

Felmon
From: Robert Komar on
felmon <nemo(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:38:03 -0600, keith wrote:
>
> I am having a hell of a time getting tv to work. I have a low-profile pci-
> e card (Hauppauge HVR1250) in a slimline Gateway 2800 running Debian and
> Ubuntu. I can't get Debian to load the card properly so leave that aside,
> Ubuntu loads the kernel stuff ok but it doesn't create /dev/video.
>
> I have googled all around, no solution. I am reasonably certain I have
> the firmware installed but not absolutely sure.
>
> I need it to get us cable. an older card in my other desktop works no
> problem using xawtv, tvtime or something else I forgot. these guys, not
> seeing /dev/video refuse to load.
>
> the kernel in Ubuntu is 2.6.31-15-generic.pae. the kernel in Debian Lenny
> is (as I recall) 2.6.26. am familiar with linuxtv.org.
>
> there's plenty to google. not done yet but have almost given up hope. I
> am a bit wary of this Gateway unit. never have had such trouble getting
> Linux to work with the graphics. OpenSuse 10.2 booted alright but some
> version of 11.x killed the monitor, forcing me to reboot. same with
> Debian but I stuck with it.
>
> felmon

The Hauppauge site says that currently only ATSC mode works under Linux on
this card. So, over-the-air digital TV, but not cable. You might try
hooking up an antenna and scanning for digital OTA channels (using
w_scan or dvbscan). The device should show up as something like
/dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0, _not_ as /dev/video0 (which is what you want
for us-cable).

See http://www.linuxtv.org/ for lots of good info in the Wiki.

Cheers,
Rob Komar

P.S. I just bought a HVR-1850 card, and am having similar problems.
These models just may be too new for good driver support under linux.
From: felmon on
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:50:21 +0000, Robert Komar wrote:


> The Hauppauge site says that currently only ATSC mode works under Linux
> on this card. So, over-the-air digital TV, but not cable.

thanks, I had either overlooked that or (more likely) didn't understand.

> You might
> try hooking up an antenna and scanning for digital OTA channels (using
> w_scan or dvbscan). The device should show up as something like
> /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0, _not_ as /dev/video0 (which is what you want for
> us-cable).

bitter experience has taught me this.

>
> See http://www.linuxtv.org/ for lots of good info in the Wiki.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob Komar
>
> P.S. I just bought a HVR-1850 card, and am having similar problems.
> These models just may be too new for good driver support under linux.

yes, I am drawing this conclusion.

in an earlier post today I explained how I got the hvr 950q running but
it is very, very ugly.

my dilemma is, I have a functioning hauppauge card for pci. I want a new
computer so it looks like I have to be careful to get one with a pci
socket or struggle with the usb kludge (for a while).

however, I may not have set up the OpenSUSE drivers and firmware
correctly.

Felmon
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