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From: Sylvia Else on 17 Mar 2010 08:26
On 17/03/2010 11:04 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>>> I'm afraid you're going to have to sit down and /learn/ exactly
>>> how this equipment works. If the self-proclaimed experts<grin>
>>> in this group can't figure out what's going on, you'll have to put
>>> out some effort on your own.
>
>> The OP may never get it. Some people have blind-spots. My mother,
>> not otherwise unintelligent, could never understand how the VCR
>> could record a TV program when the TV itself was away being repaired.
>
> Did the explanation that the VCR had its own little TV receiver inside it
> make any sense to her? It should have.

I never expressed it quite that way. But I certainly tried to explain
the concept of a tuner and recording the signal coming from it.

She seemed to find the idea slippery. I think she just about got it when
I explained it to her - but the next time the television needed
repairing (which it frequently did), she'd raise the same doubts.

Sylvia.
From: William Sommerwerck on 17 Mar 2010 08:45
>> Did the explanation that the VCR had its own little TV receiver
> inside it make any sense to her? It should have.

> I never expressed it quite that way. But I certainly tried to explain
> the concept of a tuner and recording the signal coming from it.

> She seemed to find the idea slippery. I think she just about got
> it when I explained it to her - but the next time the television needed
> repairing (which it frequently did), she'd raise the same doubts.

In fairness... About 12 years ago I was working on COM Apps documentation at
Microsoft. One of the people in that section was a German conputer scientist
who was one the few people I've ever met who was smarter than I. On several
occasions he explained some of the theory involved in their work, and I was
at a complete loss. I couldn't begin to grasp it. I had no idea what he was
talking about.

Perhaps it was all bilge, though I doubt it. It was probably that he wasn't
explaining it very well.


From: Robert Macy on 17 Mar 2010 12:27
On Mar 17, 5:45 am, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...(a)comcast.net>
wrote:
> >> Did the explanation that the VCR had its own little TV receiver
> > inside it make any sense to her? It should have.
> > I never expressed it quite that way. But I certainly tried to explain
> > the concept of a tuner and recording the signal coming from it.
> > She seemed to find the idea slippery. I think she just about got
> > it when I explained it to her - but the next time the television needed
> > repairing (which it frequently did), she'd raise the same doubts.
>
> In fairness... About 12 years ago I was working on COM Apps documentation at
> Microsoft. One of the people in that section was a German conputer scientist
> who was one the few people I've ever met who was smarter than I. On several
> occasions he explained some of the theory involved in their work, and I was
> at a complete loss. I couldn't begin to grasp it. I had no idea what he was
> talking about.
>
> Perhaps it was all bilge, though I doubt it. It was probably that he wasn't
> explaining it very well.

I have found that "if a person cannot explain something to another
reasonably intelligent person, they don't understand it themselves."

From: UCLAN on 17 Mar 2010 14:24
Cardinal Creek wrote:

> The only thing that lets me see something on the TV is the HDMI
> selection on the TV remote. The only thing that changes the channels
> is the cable remote--pressing numbers on the TV and VCR remotes
> doesn't do anything-the show on the screen stays the same. The wiring
> is the same as it was the day the VCR was installed several months
> ago. The tape is fairly new and everything was doing fine before I
> started pressing buttons to find out how to change the clock. So far,
> any taping I've done is taping a show that is on the screen at the
> moment--have not tried to program a show to be taped later. If we can
> get back to just instant taping that will be ok. Taping at this
> produces only a black screen.

[...snip]

Blindly pressing buttons. No wonder something is amiss. Methinks it is
time you tell us *precisely* how you have everything wired - and why.
From: William Sommerwerck on 17 Mar 2010 14:56
> Blindly pressing buttons. No wonder something is amiss.
> Methinks it is time you tell us *precisely* how you have
> everything wired -- and why.

This isn't meant to sound rude or nasty... But if the OP knew how and why,
he probably wouldn't be asking for help.

My audio system controller (a Parasound C2), has only one direct-analog 7.1
input, and no provision whatever for external processors. So I added three
dbx 400X switchers (Front, Side, Rear), with the Front unit rewired to
permit a given tape deck output to feed its own input. *

I can now switch in or out just about anything -- but the setup is
horrendously complex. As a result, I had to write a set of instructions
(!!!) to remind me how to use the switchers!

* The change was required because I wanted any of the inputs (CD FM LP),
which went to the tape-deck outputs, to be able to feed any of the hall
synthesizers, which were connected to the tape-deck inputs. I nearly went
crazy and blind trying to unscramble the maze-like schematic. I had to find
and unsolder the interlocks that prevented same-deck feedback.


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