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From: dave.joubert on 9 Sep 2009 10:38 I recently saw an Android scripting website, http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ , and Tcl is unfortunately not on there. Is there any 'official' project aimed at Tcl on Android ? Dave Joubert
From: bs on 9 Sep 2009 11:14 On Sep 9, 7:38 am, "dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com" <dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I recently saw an Android scripting website,http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ > , and Tcl is unfortunately not on there. Is there any 'official' > project aimed at Tcl on Android ? > > Dave Joubert I would love to see Tcl on Android. If only I had the time :( I know it's not a direct answer to your question, but there is the Hecl project, which is an implementation of a Tcl-like scripting language written in Java, and is geared towards mobile phones. It is spearheaded by David Welton, who has a lot of Tcl history. http://www.hecl.org I'd still like to see Tcl ported to Android though!
From: dave.joubert on 9 Sep 2009 12:41 On Sep 9, 4:14 pm, bs <brett.schw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.hecl.org > > I'd still like to see Tcl ported to Android though! I have seen Hecl before, and again recently. There are certain things I did not like: 1) Hecl is not Tcl, nor does it claim to be. Specifically, it does not have vwait , expr etc etc. 2) It does not seem to be a standalone interpreter. The website for example says: java -jar ./hecl/jars/AndroidBuilder.jar -android /opt/android-sdk_m5- rc15_linux-x86/ -class Hello -label Hello -package hello.world -script hello.hcl and to run the app on the emulator /opt/android-sdk_m5-rc15_linux-x86/tools/adb install Hello.apk I suppose what I am looking for in the long run is the equivalent of tclkit which runs on Android; if such an animal was available, I would be quite happy to pay for it via the Android marketplace. I would even be happy to pay twice to be able to run it on the emulator and the phone. Dave
From: terryowen on 9 Sep 2009 14:02 On Sep 9, 9:38 am, "dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com" <dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I recently saw an Android scripting website,http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ > , and Tcl is unfortunately not on there. Is there any 'official' > project aimed at Tcl on Android ? > > Dave Joubert I added a request in the ASE issue tracker a while back for TCL but the last time I was there it hadn't been accepted or assigned. Back in January, there was an Evolane announcement that they had compiled eTcl for Android's specific ARM architecture but I downloaded the archive file and wasn't quite sure what to do with it... I have a rooted phone (CM rom 4.1.5) but am still somewhat clueless about native Linux apps. There are things you can do in certain terminals and not others and I can't seem to make the etcl files executable. Terry
From: David N. Welton on 9 Sep 2009 17:47
On Sep 9, 6:41 pm, "dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com" <dave.joub...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >http://www.hecl.org > > > I'd still like to see Tcl ported to Android though! > > I have seen Hecl before, and again recently. > > There are certain things I did not like: > > 1) Hecl is not Tcl, nor does it claim to be. Right. Tcl is too big to run in older J2ME environments, and I don't think that Jacl would run even in modern ones because it uses too much of Java, and J2ME is quite limited. It might be possible to port it to Android, though. It's also about the freedom to tinker with something. That makes it much more fun for me. Also, not mentioning Tcl is a good way of avoiding the stigma associated with the language. > Specifically, it does not have vwait , expr etc etc. It has a similar mechanism to vwait. It doesn't have expr because it's a big ugly parser in an environment that was designed to be small. > 2) It does not seem to be a standalone interpreter. The website for > example says: > java -jar ./hecl/jars/AndroidBuilder.jar -android /opt/android-sdk_m5- > rc15_linux-x86/ -class Hello -label Hello -package hello.world -script > hello.hcl That packages up your script into an application. > and to run the app on the emulator > /opt/android-sdk_m5-rc15_linux-x86/tools/adb install Hello.apk Yep, you have to install it. Just like anything else. > I suppose what I am looking for in the long run is the equivalent of > tclkit which runs on Android; if such an animal was available, I would > be quite happy to pay for it via the Android marketplace. I would even > be happy to pay twice to be able to run it on the emulator and the > phone. I'm not sure what you mean, but the files that are generated by the above commands are standalone applications. Are you looking for something that can share scripts? Hecl, like Tcl, is free software. You can "pay" for it by contributing to it, something that is very welcome, and, I think, fun, because there's more room to hack the language than there ever will be on anything but a complete fork of Tcl. |