From: David Lesher on
Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> writes:

>> Hardly. Rule 1: the dish has to be be able to see the birds.
>> You can not do that from within the forest; you can from outside
>> it.

>A big Stihl or Jonsered chainsaw would take care of that. This would
>also drop the heating bill for the next 4-5 years to close to zero. Just
>kidding :-)

If they wanted to live out in bare plain, land would be LOTS
cheaper in Kansas. Plus, there's a little issue of the jail time
for cutting down trees illegally.

A friend suggests that there are multiple flavors of HDMI over
fiber boxes. Put the Dish/DirectTV at the antenna location and
run HDMI across the glass.
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From: Paul Keinanen on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:53:09 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
<wb8foz(a)panix.com> wrote:

>VWWall <vwall(a)large.invalid> writes:
>
>>> But that leave me with my isolation concern.
>
>>You also have to supply power to the LNBs. This is normally done
>>through the co-ax, but might be a problem with a long run.
>
>The dish will be at a location with power; the same place the
>solar arrays are.`
>
>>Be aware that with this method you need an optical fiber for each LNB.
>>You also need power for the fiber transmitter and the LNBs. The unit
>>described above provides the LNB power. There is also a "switch" that
>>routes the output of the required LNB to the requesting receiver. This
>>can be at the receiving end of the optical links.
>
>>There are systems that "stack" all of the LNBs outputs on one fiber.
>>This requires that that they be "un-stacked" before the receiver switch.
>
>How did we get to multiple LNB's?

For RHCP and LHCP you would need an own LNB, possibly mounted into a
single box. If the frequency difference between the lowest channel and
highest channel of difference is larger than the IF passband, you will
need separate front ends to cover the lower as well as higher end of
the satellite band in both polarizations.

If multiple satellites are needed, then more LNBs are needed. If
C-band support is needed, add some more LNBs, if you want to select
any channel at the receiver.


>
>>He'll need three circuits with power supplies at each end. This will
>>serve several TV receivers with the normal switch. Dish and DirectTV
>>use slightly different systems, but they both require multiple LNBs and
>>a way to allow all TV receivers to access the correct one.
>
>Gads. Is that why their stock setup has multiple coax's?
>
>
>>It would be a lot easier and cheaper to put the dish closer.
>
>Hardly. Rule 1: the dish has to be be able to see the birds.
>You can not do that from within the forest; you can from outside
>it.

Is this building in the middle of a 100 m redwood forest or is at some
high latitude e.g. in Alaska ?

Installing a 30 m tower to the North of the building and installing
the dishes on it, should give a clear field of view on most cases.

If there is problems of snow accumulating into the dish, try an offset
mount dish.

From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:09:33 +0300) it happened Paul Keinanen
<keinanen(a)sci.fi> wrote in <rke9s5l5g30bb2s2ueq4hsgve6llg8tlvb(a)4ax.com>:

>If there is problems of snow accumulating into the dish, try an offset
>mount dish.

Somebody in alt.satellite.tv.europe reported that a simple plastic garbage bag over the dish works wonders
to keep snow away, I think it was this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.satellite.tv.europe/browse_thread/thread/2ded1da60b86c240/d39c8be4e552b8e8?lnk=gst&q=snow#d39c8be4e552b8e8
From: Joerg on
David Lesher wrote:
> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>>> Hardly. Rule 1: the dish has to be be able to see the birds.
>>> You can not do that from within the forest; you can from outside
>>> it.
>
>> A big Stihl or Jonsered chainsaw would take care of that. This would
>> also drop the heating bill for the next 4-5 years to close to zero. Just
>> kidding :-)
>
> If they wanted to live out in bare plain, land would be LOTS
> cheaper in Kansas. Plus, there's a little issue of the jail time
> for cutting down trees illegally.
>

I don't know where that is but here in northern California we are
usually allowed to cut what we want, unless it's a protected species or
some other rules apply.


> A friend suggests that there are multiple flavors of HDMI over
> fiber boxes. Put the Dish/DirectTV at the antenna location and
> run HDMI across the glass.


Ok, but with HDMI you'd be back to the single channel solution and the
problem with the teenage daughters wanting "their" channels as well.
Then the wife wants to see a dancing show while hubby absolutely has to
see the ballgame. Lots of fibers.

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From: Copacetic on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:20:27 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher <wb8foz(a)panix.com>
wrote:

>Copacetic <Copacetic(a)iseverythingalright.org> writes:
>
>
>> Huh!?
>
>> It has a menu that has five entries:
>
>> Weather
>
>> Music
>
>> Video
>
>> Pictures
>
>> Programs
>
>> Pretty simple. Even a cave man can do it.
>
>Maybe, but they got cancelled, I thought.
>
>> You must have raised some pretty dumb daughters.
>
>You're clearly stuck in the right hand plane on that one.


It is an operating system add on that takes over the gui.

It is made specifically for the home theater user.