From: NetSpid3r on
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1466538

The readout looks bad , i can see jumpy dots ,instead of clear numbers
as in the other 2445 .
i replaced those 3 47uf caps on the A5 board (control board) , and it
didn't helped .
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2372/image015pn5.jpg

From: Jim Yanik on
"NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com" <NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com> wrote in
news:1195075563.961231.101880(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:

> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1466538
>
> The readout looks bad , i can see jumpy dots ,instead of clear numbers
> as in the other 2445 .
> i replaced those 3 47uf caps on the A5 board (control board) , and it
> didn't helped .
> http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2372/image015pn5.jpg
>
>

2445 non-B scopes have separate R-O boards.
the signal from them feeds into the vertical on the main bottom board.
try swapping the readout boards.
IIRC,there's also a pot to adjust R-O crawl/jitter.
see the cal procedure in your service manual.

On "B" models,the readout is integrated to the A5 uP board.
"B" model A5 uP boards are NOT swappable with earlier versions.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
From: JW on
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:26:03 -0000 "NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com"
<NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com> wrote in Message id:
<1195075563.961231.101880(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>:

>http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1466538
>
>The readout looks bad , i can see jumpy dots ,instead of clear numbers
>as in the other 2445 .
>i replaced those 3 47uf caps on the A5 board (control board) , and it
>didn't helped .
>http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2372/image015pn5.jpg

I'll second what Jim has said with regards to the jitter pot. On very
early serial numbers, the pot and a few passive components were tack
soldered to U800 (An ECN I guess - I just replaced a U800 on a 2465 that
had this). On later serial numbers, R805 was added to the A1 board. It
couldn't hurt to give it a twiddle.
From: NetSpid3r on


Jim Yanik wrote:
> "NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com" <NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1195075563.961231.101880(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
> > http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1466538
> >
> > The readout looks bad , i can see jumpy dots ,instead of clear numbers
> > as in the other 2445 .
> > i replaced those 3 47uf caps on the A5 board (control board) , and it
> > didn't helped .
> > http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2372/image015pn5.jpg
> >
> >
>
> 2445 non-B scopes have separate R-O boards.
> the signal from them feeds into the vertical on the main bottom board.
> try swapping the readout boards.
> IIRC,there's also a pot to adjust R-O crawl/jitter.
> see the cal procedure in your service manual.
>
> On "B" models,the readout is integrated to the A5 uP board.
> "B" model A5 uP boards are NOT swappable with earlier versions.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net
tried play with jitter , didn't do the trick ...

and you are right about A5 in the 2445 , the R-O is not on this
board , i just did a swap with a good 2445 A5 and got the same jerky
readout .

what component is making the problem in the R-O of the 2445 ?
caps ? or something else ?
From: Jim Yanik on
"NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com" <NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:19dc4e5b-d326-
4c17-9bc9-bb21fa6f033f(a)a28g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com" <NetSpid3r(a)gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1195075563.961231.101880(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1466538
>> >
>> > The readout looks bad , i can see jumpy dots ,instead of clear numbers
>> > as in the other 2445 .
>> > i replaced those 3 47uf caps on the A5 board (control board) , and it
>> > didn't helped .
>> > http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2372/image015pn5.jpg
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 2445 non-B scopes have separate R-O boards.
>> the signal from them feeds into the vertical on the main bottom board.
>> try swapping the readout boards.
>> IIRC,there's also a pot to adjust R-O crawl/jitter.
>> see the cal procedure in your service manual.
>>
>> On "B" models,the readout is integrated to the A5 uP board.
>> "B" model A5 uP boards are NOT swappable with earlier versions.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
> tried play with jitter , didn't do the trick ...
>
> and you are right about A5 in the 2445 , the R-O is not on this
> board , i just did a swap with a good 2445 A5 and got the same jerky
> readout .
>
> what component is making the problem in the R-O of the 2445 ?
> caps ? or something else ?
>

possibly caps,or a bad hybrid on the main board.
Does it twitch in the vert or horiz direction,or both? signal trace
solid,in both V and H axes?
This may be where you have to scope every decoupled PS supply line.
could even be some of those 0.1uf DIP caps that are all over every board.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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