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From: Vera Noest [MVP] on 19 Mar 2008 18:45
Yes, that's a problem.
If you want Per Device TS CALs instead, you will have to call the
Clearinghouse to get a new license pack. Note that such a change is
only allowed if you have valid Software Assurance on your existing
licenses.

The other solution is to change the licensing mode of your Terminal
Server to Per User licensing. This is done in Terminal Services
Configuration - Server settings.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?amVmZms=?= <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
mar 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I just looked on my server. The temp CALs are device CALs and
> the actual CALs are per user. Is this going to cause any
> problems, and if so, can I change the CALs to device CALs?
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com>
>> wrote on 19 mar 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > jeffk <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> I installed a terminal server (member server) on a SBS
>> >> network and am now getting the following pop up on the
>> >> desktops: "Your terminal services temporary client license
>> >> will expire in 7 days. Please contact your system
>> >> administrator to get a permanent license." Is this anything
>> >> that I need to worry about? Will the permanent licenses
>> >> start working without having to do anything? If there is
>> >> something I need to do, what is it? Help!
>> >
>> > Did you buy TS CALs and install the Terminal Service
>> > Licensing bits on your SBS box? (that's where I'd put them).
>> > Then you need to launch & activate them/it. Then you point
>> > the TS box at the TS licensing server.
>>
>> And if you already installed permanent TS CALs on an LS (which
>> your post seems to suggest), does the licensing mode of your TS
>> match the type of licenses that you installed, i.e. Per User /
>> Per Device?
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
From: jeffk on 19 Mar 2008 19:12
Will changing the TS to user CALs make a difference? I've changed it, but I
don't know what the ramifications will be.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Yes, that's a problem.
> If you want Per Device TS CALs instead, you will have to call the
> Clearinghouse to get a new license pack. Note that such a change is
> only allowed if you have valid Software Assurance on your existing
> licenses.
>
> The other solution is to change the licensing mode of your Terminal
> Server to Per User licensing. This is done in Terminal Services
> Configuration - Server settings.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?amVmZms=?= <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
> mar 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > I just looked on my server. The temp CALs are device CALs and
> > the actual CALs are per user. Is this going to cause any
> > problems, and if so, can I change the CALs to device CALs?
> >
> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com>
> >> wrote on 19 mar 2008 in
> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>
> >> > jeffk <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> I installed a terminal server (member server) on a SBS
> >> >> network and am now getting the following pop up on the
> >> >> desktops: "Your terminal services temporary client license
> >> >> will expire in 7 days. Please contact your system
> >> >> administrator to get a permanent license." Is this anything
> >> >> that I need to worry about? Will the permanent licenses
> >> >> start working without having to do anything? If there is
> >> >> something I need to do, what is it? Help!
> >> >
> >> > Did you buy TS CALs and install the Terminal Service
> >> > Licensing bits on your SBS box? (that's where I'd put them).
> >> > Then you need to launch & activate them/it. Then you point
> >> > the TS box at the TS licensing server.
> >>
> >> And if you already installed permanent TS CALs on an LS (which
> >> your post seems to suggest), does the licensing mode of your TS
> >> match the type of licenses that you installed, i.e. Per User /
> >> Per Device?
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> Vera Noest
> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>
>
From: Vera Noest [MVP] on 20 Mar 2008 09:08
Yes, it can make a big difference. Be sure to choose the licensing
mode which is cheapest for you.

Per Device means: you need a TS CAL for every connecting device
(not concurrent)
Per User means: ou need a TS CAL for every connecting user (not
concurrent)

So if you have more devices than users (when most users connect
from multiple devices, like their office pc, their home pc and a
laptop), then Per User is cheaper.
If you have more users than devices (when people are working in
shifts and sharing clients, or in a classroom), then Per Device is
cheapest.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

=?Utf-8?B?amVmZms=?= <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 20
mar 2008:

> Will changing the TS to user CALs make a difference? I've
> changed it, but I don't know what the ramifications will be.
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Yes, that's a problem.
>> If you want Per Device TS CALs instead, you will have to call
>> the Clearinghouse to get a new license pack. Note that such a
>> change is only allowed if you have valid Software Assurance on
>> your existing licenses.
>>
>> The other solution is to change the licensing mode of your
>> Terminal Server to Per User licensing. This is done in Terminal
>> Services Configuration - Server settings.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?amVmZms=?= <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
>> 19 mar 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > I just looked on my server. The temp CALs are device CALs and
>> > the actual CALs are per user. Is this going to cause any
>> > problems, and if so, can I change the CALs to device CALs?
>> >
>> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> >> <lanwench(a)heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com>
>> >> wrote on 19 mar 2008 in
>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>> >>
>> >> > jeffk <jeffk(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I installed a terminal server (member server) on a SBS
>> >> >> network and am now getting the following pop up on the
>> >> >> desktops: "Your terminal services temporary client
>> >> >> license will expire in 7 days. Please contact your system
>> >> >> administrator to get a permanent license." Is this
>> >> >> anything that I need to worry about? Will the permanent
>> >> >> licenses start working without having to do anything? If
>> >> >> there is something I need to do, what is it? Help!
>> >> >
>> >> > Did you buy TS CALs and install the Terminal Service
>> >> > Licensing bits on your SBS box? (that's where I'd put
>> >> > them). Then you need to launch & activate them/it. Then
>> >> > you point the TS box at the TS licensing server.
>> >>
>> >> And if you already installed permanent TS CALs on an LS
>> >> (which your post seems to suggest), does the licensing mode
>> >> of your TS match the type of licenses that you installed,
>> >> i.e. Per User / Per Device?
>> >>
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> Vera Noest
>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
From: DEI on 20 Mar 2008 19:51
I don't mean to steal his post, just want a clarification. If I use device
CAL's and replace my workstations will I have to buy additional CAL's since
they were issued to the other workstations? Is there a way to clear or
delete them to keep them from consuming license? What about user license?
(with employee attrition)


From: Vera Noest [MVP] on 21 Mar 2008 06:18
No need to do anything at all. Details are explained here:

How can I revoke an issued license to make it available for a new
client?
http://ts.veranoest.net/ts_faq_licensing.htm#revoke_licenses

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"DEI" <dei(a)nospam.com> wrote on 21 mar 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I don't mean to steal his post, just want a clarification. If I
> use device CAL's and replace my workstations will I have to buy
> additional CAL's since they were issued to the other
> workstations? Is there a way to clear or delete them to keep
> them from consuming license? What about user license? (with
> employee attrition)
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