From: Adrian Tuddenham on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2009-12-10, Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > Hylton Boothroyd <hylton.boothroyd(a)null.c0m.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Can anyone point me to an application, preferably free, that makes it
> >> easy to create plain text to take up all the space in an upright
> >> isosceles triangle?
> >>
> >> OS 10.4.11, MS Office 2004.
> >>
> >> We had a rush of blood to the head and chose triangular Christmas cards!
> >> It seems that MS Office has been useless for that sort of thing since
> >> Office 98.
> >
> > Claris Works 4 did it in a few seconds:
> > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Picture1.gif
> >
> > ...but sadly you won't be able to run it on OS 10.4
>
> Won't it run under Classic?

I thought it would only run up to 10.3, then they screwed it up - but I
may be mistaken, so it is worth a try.


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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Hylton Boothroyd <hylton.boothroyd(a)null.c0m.invalid> wrote:

> Can anyone point me to an application, preferably free, that makes it
> easy to create plain text to take up all the space in an upright
> isosceles triangle?

If `easy' includes a willingness to learn a macro instruction based
non-wysiwyg approach:

<http://www.tug.org/mactex/2009/>

and then get the TeXBook by Knuth, which contains instructions on how to
do that sort of thing (there are other approaches).

> OS 10.4.11, MS Office 2004.
>
> We had a rush of blood to the head and chose triangular Christmas cards!
> It seems that MS Office has been useless for that sort of thing since
> Office 98.

TeX can do it. You might not like the learning curve.[1]

Rowland.

[1] No, I'm lying: you won't like the learning curve.

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From: Adrian Tuddenham on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > > Hylton Boothroyd <hylton.boothroyd(a)null.c0m.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Can anyone point me to an application, preferably free, that makes it
> > > >> easy to create plain text to take up all the space in an upright
> > > >> isosceles triangle?
> > > >>
> > > >> OS 10.4.11, MS Office 2004.
> > > >>
> > > We had a rush of blood to the head and chose triangular Christmas cards!
> > > >> It seems that MS Office has been useless for that sort of thing since
> > > >> Office 98.
> > > >
> > > > Claris Works 4 did it in a few seconds:
> > > > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Picture1.gif
> > > >
> > > > ...but sadly you won't be able to run it on OS 10.4
> > >
> > > Won't it run under Classic?
> >
> > I thought it would only run up to 10.3, then they screwed it up - but I
> > may be mistaken, so it is worth a try.
>
> I could find out in a minute to two, but can't be bothered.
>
> However: can't the job be done using AppleWorks 6?

Very likely, but will that run under OS 10.4?.


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From: Jim on
On 2009-12-10, Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Claris Works 4 did it in a few seconds:
>> > > > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Picture1.gif
>> > > >
>> > > > ...but sadly you won't be able to run it on OS 10.4
>> > >
>> > > Won't it run under Classic?
>> >
>> > I thought it would only run up to 10.3, then they screwed it up - but I
>> > may be mistaken, so it is worth a try.
>>
>> I could find out in a minute to two, but can't be bothered.
>>
>> However: can't the job be done using AppleWorks 6?
>
> Very likely, but will that run under OS 10.4?.

Dim and distant memory here, but: yes, I think it will.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
> > > > > Claris Works 4 did it in a few seconds:
> > > > > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Picture1.gif
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but sadly you won't be able to run it on OS 10.4
> > > >
> > > > Won't it run under Classic?
> > >
> > > I thought it would only run up to 10.3, then they screwed it up - but I
> > > may be mistaken, so it is worth a try.
> >
> > I could find out in a minute to two, but can't be bothered.

12 mounted discs later[1], and I found out.

Claris Works 4 installs and runs under Classic on MacOS X 10.4.11.

However, it's not possible for me to print from Classic at all. Never
did work that one out, so CW 4 isn't useful for me.

Does anyone here know how to get printing working from Classic?

(never did get much use out of CW 4, which I paid for. The Claris Works
drawing and writing modules are nothing like as useful as MacWrite II
and MacDraw II under System 6. It's one of the reasons I became very
disillusioned with commercial software - a lot of it's not getting
better, it's getting worse as it `develops')

> > However: can't the job be done using AppleWorks 6?
>
> Very likely, but will that run under OS 10.4?.

It runs under MacOS X 10.6.2, right here, right now (really, just
launched it to make sure nothing odd's gone on lately). No worries at
all about 10.4.11 either (yep, I've used AW under 10.4.11 rather a lot).

Sometimes, AW 6 does have a sulk and won't run - crashing on take-off.

Trashing ~/Documents/Appleworks User Data seems to be the fix.

(and why oh why oh why can't they put it in ~/Library/Application
Support/AppleWorks User Data? Or at least ~/Appleworks User Data?
Pfft.)


Rowland.

[1] Didn't know where it was, so fired up all external discs connected
to our IntelMac. That's four extra. Searched, and while that was going
on, I went to the next door iLamp and told it to connect to the IntelMac
and mount all discs. Then I found CW 4, copied it to the iLamp,
decompressed, and mounted all six install disc images.

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