From: Jim on
On 2009-12-10, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> (never did get much use out of CW 4, which I paid for. The Claris Works
> drawing and writing modules are nothing like as useful as MacWrite II
> and MacDraw II under System 6. It's one of the reasons I became very
> disillusioned with commercial software - a lot of it's not getting
> better, it's getting worse as it `develops')

I always liked 4. I seem to recall there was some sort of printing bug with
the spreadsheet (can't remember the details, missed the top line or
something) but generally I liked it.

Wasn't it the last version before it got an interface makeover? Never was
too keen on Appleworks' (v6 at least, and I _think_ v5) interface icons.


Jim
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From: Woody on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2009-12-10, Rowland McDonnell
> <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >
> > (never did get much use out of CW 4, which I paid for. The Claris Works
> > drawing and writing modules are nothing like as useful as MacWrite II
> > and MacDraw II under System 6. It's one of the reasons I became very
> > disillusioned with commercial software - a lot of it's not getting
> > better, it's getting worse as it `develops')
>
> I always liked 4. I seem to recall there was some sort of printing bug with
> the spreadsheet (can't remember the details, missed the top line or
> something) but generally I liked it.

I hated every version of claris / apple works. Never got on with it at
all. I guess it was as I had a copy of word 5 with my first mac and it
did what i wanted.



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From: Adrian Tuddenham on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > > > > Claris Works 4 did it in a few seconds:
> > > > > > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/images/Picture1.gif
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...but sadly you won't be able to run it on OS 10.4
> > > > >
> > > > > Won't it run under Classic?
> > > >
> > > > I thought it would only run up to 10.3, then they screwed it up - but I
> > > > may be mistaken, so it is worth a try.
> > >
> > > I could find out in a minute to two, but can't be bothered.
>
> 12 mounted discs later[1], and I found out.
>
> Claris Works 4 installs and runs under Classic on MacOS X 10.4.11.

I seem to remember finding that an Intel iMac wouldn't run CW in any
shape or form. If it will, perhaps I shall get some some useful work
out of it after all.



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From: Adrian Tuddenham on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2009-12-10, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
> wrote:
> >
> > (never did get much use out of CW 4, which I paid for. The Claris Works
> > drawing and writing modules are nothing like as useful as MacWrite II
> > and MacDraw II under System 6. It's one of the reasons I became very
> > disillusioned with commercial software - a lot of it's not getting
> > better, it's getting worse as it `develops')
>
> I always liked 4. I seem to recall there was some sort of printing bug with
> the spreadsheet (can't remember the details, missed the top line or
> something) but generally I liked it.

I've used the Spreadsheet a lot and haven't noticed any bugs. For
printers I use:
HP Laserjet 6 MP (ethernet > serial)
Canon CLBP460PS (ethernet)
Canon S520 (USB)

The ability of CW4 to embed Spreadsheets in WP Documents or in Drawings
is invaluable (also to embed Drawings in WPs as separate drawings or as
text characters)

>
> Wasn't it the last version before it got an interface makeover?

Yes. I foolishly 'upgraded' to CW/AW5 - and after 3 weeks switched back
to CW4 and have stayed there ever since.


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From: Bruce Horrocks on
Hylton Boothroyd wrote:
> Can anyone point me to an application, preferably free, that makes it
> easy to create plain text to take up all the space in an upright
> isosceles triangle?
>
> OS 10.4.11, MS Office 2004.
>
> We had a rush of blood to the head and chose triangular Christmas cards!
> It seems that MS Office has been useless for that sort of thing since
> Office 98.

Use Word, centre your paragraphs, type short lines at the top and longer
ones at the bottom, manually inserting carriage returns?

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England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
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