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From: Phildo on 6 Oct 2009 15:08

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> <BJtheDJ(a)the.controls> wrote in message
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>
>> I'm pretty certain that the cluster was not built and
>> then hoisted into place
>
> I was around when it was installed, and that is exactly what happened.

Then why are you so stupid as not to move it the same way?

Your excuses get more pathetic with every post you make. Why don't you just
admit what everybody here already knows - you don't have a clue about live
sound?

Phildo

Phildo


From: Phildo on 6 Oct 2009 15:11

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not a rigger. Not licensed, not insured, not trained.

Yet you felt perfectly qualified to give (bad if not potentially fatal)
advice a while back when the subject of rigging came up a while ago. Go
figure.

Phildo


From: Arny Krueger on 6 Oct 2009 15:12
"Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>> <BJtheDJ(a)the.controls> wrote in message
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>>
>>> I'm pretty certain that the cluster was not built and
>>> then hoisted into place
>>
>> I was around when it was installed, and that is exactly
>> what happened.

> Then why are you so stupid as not to move it the same way?

I'm not a rigger. Not trained, not licensed, not insured and not paid (for
this).

Of course Phildo, you think that people should endanger their lives and the
lives of others but for what reason? The heck of it? Bragging rights?


From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 6 Oct 2009 15:13

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>>> <BJtheDJ(a)the.controls> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> I'm pretty certain that the cluster was not built and
>>>> then hoisted into place
>>>
>>> I was around when it was installed, and that is exactly
>>> what happened. I saw it assembled on the floor. It was hoisted up,
>>> fastened in place, and the hoist removed. If memory
>>> serves, the screw eye that was used to lift it sticks
>>> through a hole in the ceiling into the above-ceiling
>>> area, which we use to access the ceiling fixtures, etc.
>>
>>
>> then get up in the crawl space attach a winch and cable
>> to the screweye(hopefully a forged shouldered and serial
>> numbered eye bolt, not a screw eye) and get with the
>> program
>
> I'm not a rigger. Not licensed, not insured, not trained. If I did such a
> thing people would rant and rave about it forever. Of course you will,
> anyhow.

I am insured and if a licesnce is needed in your local I can easily obtain
it
imagine that the tables would be turned, instead of you being my shill
I would be working for you!!
George
>
>


From: Arny Krueger on 6 Oct 2009 15:15
"Richard Webb"
<Richard.Webb.my.foot(a)116-901.ftn.wpusa.dynip.com> wrote in
message news:025_200910061503(a)ftn.wpusa.dynip.com
> Bj writes:
>
>> I'm pretty certain that the cluster was not built and
>> then hoisted into place - that would be madness - but
>> instead your plywood frame was positioned and the
>> speakers individually hoisted and installed into it; and
>> the logical way of moving it would be to reverse the
>> installation procedure, move the frame and then
>> re-install.

> ONe would think so. I know that horn has been in a less
> than optimal position now for a couple of years. We've
> discussed it in this group before iirc.

The horn was probably in an optimal position for its initial use, which was
mostly to reinforce speech coming from pulpets on either side of the
platform.

My reason for not messing with it is something I'm surprised that nobody has
any respect for. I'm not trained, not licensed, not insured and not even
paid to do this.

I guess I can take this conversation as meaning that the AAPLS standard is
to direct untrained people to endanger the lives of the patrons for the sake
of what? Bragging rights?


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