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From: Sam Wormley on 16 Nov 2009 10:31 mpc755 wrote: > On Nov 16, 10:21 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> mpc755 wrote: >>> On Nov 16, 9:39 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>>> mpc755 wrote: >>>>> Matter is condensed aether. When matter transitions to aether, >>>>> the effect the increase in volume the transition has on the >>>>> surrounding matter and aether is energy (i.e. A=mc^2). >>>> What is the transition temperature between condensed aether >>>> and un condensed aether? >>> I don't know. Heat is the effect moving aether has on matter. >> Let me rephrase... you say that mass is condensed aether. So >> you are dealing with two entities, aether and condensed aether. >> Furthermore you claim mathematically that aether is energy and >> that it has a conversion factor of c^2. >> >> Therefore, according to you, condensed aether has units of mass >> and un condensed aether has units of energy. I presume that you >> will also claim that the energy (aether) is conserved. >> >> I merely asked at what temperature aether condenses into condensed >> aether. > > Not mass, matter. Matter is compressed aether. Aether has mass. I > think it is more pressure which converts aether into compressed aether > (i.e. matter). I do not know how much pressure it takes to convert > aether into matter. When I think of A=mc^2, I think volume. So a grain of sand in interstellar space is condensed aether held together by pressure. Pressure of aether, I presume? And what keeps all that aether for condensing?
From: mpc755 on 16 Nov 2009 10:49 On Nov 16, 10:31 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > mpc755 wrote: > > On Nov 16, 10:21 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > >> mpc755 wrote: > >>> On Nov 16, 9:39 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > >>>> mpc755 wrote: > >>>>> Matter is condensed aether. When matter transitions to aether, > >>>>> the effect the increase in volume the transition has on the > >>>>> surrounding matter and aether is energy (i.e. A=mc^2). > >>>> What is the transition temperature between condensed aether > >>>> and un condensed aether? > >>> I don't know. Heat is the effect moving aether has on matter. > >> Let me rephrase... you say that mass is condensed aether. So > >> you are dealing with two entities, aether and condensed aether. > >> Furthermore you claim mathematically that aether is energy and > >> that it has a conversion factor of c^2. > > >> Therefore, according to you, condensed aether has units of mass > >> and un condensed aether has units of energy. I presume that you > >> will also claim that the energy (aether) is conserved. > > >> I merely asked at what temperature aether condenses into condensed > >> aether. > > > Not mass, matter. Matter is compressed aether. Aether has mass. I > > think it is more pressure which converts aether into compressed aether > > (i.e. matter). I do not know how much pressure it takes to convert > > aether into matter. When I think of A=mc^2, I think volume. > > So a grain of sand in interstellar space is condensed aether held > together by pressure. Pressure of aether, I presume? And what keeps > all that aether for condensing? All matter is compressed aether, including the grain of sand in interstellar space. Compressed aether is self-contained matter which exists in and displaces the aether. Not enough pressure keeps aether from compressing.
From: Benj on 16 Nov 2009 10:53 On Nov 16, 10:21 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Let me rephrase... you say that mass is condensed aether. So > you are dealing with two entities, aether and condensed aether. > Furthermore you claim mathematically that aether is energy and > that it has a conversion factor of c^2. Actually we can surmise that Aether has three states. There would be condensed aether. This would be the material making up protons, neutrons and many other elementary particles. The second would be the gaseous state which is what fills the "vacuum" of empty space. [Aside: Aether is a super, perfect fluid so as such the gaseous state is actually a hybrid state combining the qualities of gasses and liquids at the same time.] And lastly, of course, would be a "hole" in the aether or a "true" vacuum. A true vacuum does not transmit light or other waves and has no properties. > Therefore, according to you, condensed aether has units of mass > and un condensed aether has units of energy. I presume that you > will also claim that the energy (aether) is conserved. This is obviously true. The relationship between condensed aether and gaseous aether is E=mc^2 in which the energy given off as the aether "melts/evaporates" is determined by the mass of the condensed aether. Of course the mass is conserved as well with the former condensed mass expanding into space as an aether gas/liquid. The energy released from this action is given by the classic equation. The expansion of the aether acts as a source of mechanical energy disturbing the aether which then manifests as EM radiation of various wavelengths as is well known in the case of atomic bombs. > I merely asked at what temperature aether condenses into condensed > aether. Obviously this question is silly in that nobody knows how to measure the "temperature" of the aether. One has to surmise that aether of space is under constant agitation to keep it unfrozen. One must assume that if all motion of any portion of the aether stops for even a fraction of a second it condenses. And that therefore implies a constant stirring of all space (or more likely, waves traveling in all directions as represented by the motions of string theory or the energy of "dark" energy). But what kind of "thermometer" one uses to measure aether temperature remains to be seen.
From: jbriggs444 on 16 Nov 2009 14:35 On Nov 16, 10:53 am, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote: > On Nov 16, 10:21 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > > > Let me rephrase... you say that mass is condensed aether. So > > you are dealing with two entities, aether and condensed aether. > > Furthermore you claim mathematically that aether is energy and > > that it has a conversion factor of c^2. > > Actually we can surmise that Aether has three states. There would be > condensed aether. This would be the material making up protons, > neutrons and many other elementary particles. Thus implying that all elementary particles are made of varying quantities of the same underlying stuff. And further implying that they can be created and destroyed without obeying any arbitrary rules like conservation of baryon number. > The second would be the > gaseous state which is what fills the "vacuum" of empty space. [Aside: > Aether is a super, perfect fluid so as such the gaseous state is > actually a hybrid state combining the qualities of gasses and liquids > at the same time.] So it both will and will not expand to fill a chamber, for instance. > And lastly, of course, would be a "hole" in the > aether or a "true" vacuum. A true vacuum does not transmit light or > other waves and has no properties. Then obviously it must reflect light, just like an unterminated coax cable. Thus it has a discernable shape. > > Therefore, according to you, condensed aether has units of mass > > and un condensed aether has units of energy. I presume that you > > will also claim that the energy (aether) is conserved. > > This is obviously true. The relationship between condensed aether and > gaseous aether is E=mc^2 in which the energy given off as the aether > "melts/evaporates" is determined by the mass of the condensed aether. > Of course the mass is conserved as well with the former condensed mass > expanding into space as an aether gas/liquid. The energy released from > this action is given by the classic equation. The expansion of the > aether acts as a source of mechanical energy disturbing the aether > which then manifests as EM radiation of various wavelengths as is well > known in the case of atomic bombs. > > > I merely asked at what temperature aether condenses into condensed > > aether. > > Obviously this question is silly in that nobody knows how to measure > the "temperature" of the aether. And yet... > One has to surmise that aether of > space is under constant agitation to keep it unfrozen. One must assume > that if all motion of any portion of the aether stops for even a > fraction of a second it condenses. So the ether is under constant agitation and motion. Why would a temperature not be associated with this? > And that therefore implies a > constant stirring of all space (or more likely, waves traveling in all > directions as represented by the motions of string theory or the > energy of "dark" energy). But what kind of "thermometer" one uses to > measure aether temperature remains to be seen. You've completely forgotten the pre-eminent property of the Ether. It transmits light. There's no need to invoke string theory or dark energy to explain the internal motion of the Ether. Ether is supposed to transmit light as vibration. It follows from basic thermodynamic principles that the temperature of the Ether (if any) is given by the equilibrium temperature of the electromagnetic radiation that it transmits. If you want an ethermometer, take an ordinary mercury thermometer. Shake it down and let it float in a vacuum in space. Wait for it to equilibriate with its environment. The reading on the thermometer is the temperature of the ether. Now, just to show that I can riff on stupidity as well as the next guy. [begin riff] If there is a condensation temperature for the ether, it follows the parts of the universe that are far from any star will condense and are, in fact, condensing already. Olber's paradox gives some assurance that such places exist. This condensation is a source of matter which begins infalling toward the center of the universe until it reaches the boiling temperature and reverts to ether. This matter is both transparent and not well lit and is, in fact, "dark matter". It can penetrate the universe without warming significantly. The resulting creation of empty space uniformly throughout the cosmos results in what appears to be an expansion of the universe and the observed Hubble constant. The release of energy due to e=mc^2 may account as well for "dark energy". The cosmic microwave background is, in fact, the electromagnetic hum from condensed ether popping back into existence throughout the universe. Surface tension means that bits of condensed ether that are sufficiently small are under huge internal pressures and will not spontaneously evaporate even under temperatures far above the Ether's normal boiling point. This accounts for the stability of elementary particles and for the instability of nuclei with high atomic numbers. What if the universe isn't a plutonium atom... what if it's made of diethyl ether? You don't think God just chose the terminology at random do you? It is well known that God is an iron. [Google for it] [end riff]
From: mpc755 on 16 Nov 2009 16:15
On Nov 16, 10:26 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Not mass, matter. Matter is compressed aether. Aether has mass. I > think it is more pressure which converts aether into compressed aether > (i.e. matter). I do not know how much pressure it takes to convert > aether into matter. When I think of A=mc^2, I think volume. Where 'm' is matter. The mass is equal on both sides of the equation. |