From: Alan Baker on
In article <hr77gv$25n$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Mark Subtlework <MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:

> On 04/27/2010 12:45 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > In article<hr721o$rop$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Mark Subtlework<MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Right. So, you clear the streets in NY and you shoot at the last minute.
> >
> > Good luck with that. And don't forget about inertia, those planes don't
> > just stop and drop straight down. Unless you splash them into the water
> > or on farm land before they get near the cities, you don't really gain
> > that much. Assuming you can clear out a few hundred square blocks of NYC
> > after you know where they are going.
>
> You clear all the streets. You put TV, radio, police and firemen with
> megaphones to contribution.
>
> Enough. Back to how Jobs hijacked Apple.

Mark: you are completely ignorant of these matters, so by all means go
back to being ignorant about things that are on topic for these groups

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From: Edwin on
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:42:37 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> In article <hr77gv$25n$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Mark Subtlework <MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/27/2010 12:45 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
>>> In article<hr721o$rop$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Mark Subtlework<MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right. So, you clear the streets in NY and you shoot at the last minute.
>>>
>>> Good luck with that. And don't forget about inertia, those planes don't
>>> just stop and drop straight down. Unless you splash them into the water
>>> or on farm land before they get near the cities, you don't really gain
>>> that much. Assuming you can clear out a few hundred square blocks of NYC
>>> after you know where they are going.
>>
>> You clear all the streets. You put TV, radio, police and firemen with
>> megaphones to contribution.
>>
>> Enough. Back to how Jobs hijacked Apple.
>
> Mark: you are completely ignorant of these matters, so by all means go
> back to being ignorant about things that are on topic for these groups

You'll never see more irony in your lifetime than has just been generated
by Alan Baker in his single reply.
From: Kurt Ullman on
In article <hr777o$urf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Mark Subtlework <MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:


> Maccie reasoning! If you intend to shoot the plane, all you have to
> evacuate is the streets, dummy!
>
"All" you have to do? Which streets? How many blocks?Where is it
going to be when you shoot it down (especially as you said early when
you "know" what the plans are)? You also have to evacuate the buildings
in the area since debris will fall over a fairly wide area, especially
if you shoot it down. Where do you evacuate them too and how do you get
them there. And you call us dummies.

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From: Alan Baker on
In article <1hlppovcpf6iq.1g15i4wacikqo$.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
Edwin <thorne25(a)juno.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:42:37 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
>
> > In article <hr77gv$25n$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Mark Subtlework <MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 04/27/2010 12:45 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
> >>> In article<hr721o$rop$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> >>> Mark Subtlework<MSW(a)khkhhkhkhkhk.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Right. So, you clear the streets in NY and you shoot at the last minute.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck with that. And don't forget about inertia, those planes don't
> >>> just stop and drop straight down. Unless you splash them into the water
> >>> or on farm land before they get near the cities, you don't really gain
> >>> that much. Assuming you can clear out a few hundred square blocks of NYC
> >>> after you know where they are going.
> >>
> >> You clear all the streets. You put TV, radio, police and firemen with
> >> megaphones to contribution.
> >>
> >> Enough. Back to how Jobs hijacked Apple.
> >
> > Mark: you are completely ignorant of these matters, so by all means go
> > back to being ignorant about things that are on topic for these groups
>
> You'll never see more irony in your lifetime than has just been generated
> by Alan Baker in his single reply.

Don't you read your own posts?

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:18:07 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Actually it was more the common military occurrence of fighting
>the last war. At the time, the entire system was set-up on the model of
>lessons learned during the time hijackings were a cheap and easy way to
>get to Cuba. The policy of the time was to let the hijacker have the
>plane, do as they said, and mess around with them until they got where
>they wanted to go. It was assumed that they wanted the plane for
>transportation instead of incineration.
> At the time is wasn't policy to scramble AF for the most part because
>you did not want to spook the hijackers into doing something rash. You
>cleared the airspace and watched them, maybe hoping for a screw up if
>they refueled somewhere.
> Looking at it under the scenarios of the day before, what happened
>was pretty much normal SOP. Looking at it under the scenarios of the day
>after, there were holes.

They found the solution to the hijacking problem over the skies of
Pennsylvania on 9/11. Those political "solutions" added after did
not make us any safer, cost us a lot, and showed that terrorism works.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison