From: Craig on
On 06/25/2010 08:15 AM, H-Man wrote:
> Anything like Insurance records, medical
> records, financial information should not and probably never will find it's
> way to the "Cloud".

Hi H-Man;

Ins, med & financial companies have been storing/retrieving our client
info on the internet for years now. And, if you think about who has
access to records, it's accessible across any given company's "private
cloud." For example:

Clinic/Hospital <-> Insurance Co or
Bank <-> US Gummint.

And that's on a good day. Throw in black-hat hackers, take two aspirin
and roll the dice.

--
-Craig
From: Craig on
On 06/25/2010 09:11 AM, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> Do you ever commit to anything?

Correcting your egregious errors, for one.

--
-Craig
From: Dustin Cook on
Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in
news:i02imk$i6k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:

> On 06/25/2010 08:15 AM, H-Man wrote:
>> Anything like Insurance records, medical
>> records, financial information should not and probably never will
>> find it's way to the "Cloud".
>
> Hi H-Man;
>
> Ins, med & financial companies have been storing/retrieving our client
> info on the internet for years now. And, if you think about who has
> access to records, it's accessible across any given company's "private
> cloud." For example:
>
> Clinic/Hospital <-> Insurance Co or
> Bank <-> US Gummint.
>
> And that's on a good day. Throw in black-hat hackers, take two
> aspirin and roll the dice.

Add one hacker to the companies payroll, inside, direct access to the
information he or she seeks.




--
The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other
side of the mountain was all that he could see! So he went back over the
mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was
all that he could see! - Green Jelly The Bear Song
From: The Management on
za kAT:

>"I think private clouds are fine. What's the difference between that and
>a VPN really?"

Not a lot but the issue isn't about private clouds/VPNs.
It's about WHO has - or might have - access and control of the data that
flows and is stored in a commercial cloud. For all you know the cloud you
use might be a front company run by the FBI, or the FBI may get a court
order to gain access to your data without your knowledge.


The Management
"You have been targeted for denigration"

From: za kAT on
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:25:08 +0200, The Management wrote:

> za kAT:
>
>>"I think private clouds are fine. What's the difference between that and
>>a VPN really?"
>
> Not a lot but the issue isn't about private clouds/VPNs.
> It's about WHO has - or might have - access and control of the data that
> flows and is stored in a commercial cloud. For all you know the cloud you
> use might be a front company run by the FBI, or the FBI may get a court
> order to gain access to your data without your knowledge.

Which is what I said basically. What bit didn't you understand?

I'll just post it back for reference.

> > Actually, I have far less of a problem with the technology, as I have with
> > the ability to audit the host company.
> >
> > I think private clouds are fine. What's the difference between that and a
> > VPN really? Security wise, I mean.
> >
> > If the team running the cloud service are thieving gits, you have little
> > chance of knowing, and before Bottom tells us that doesn't happen. Believe
> > me it does.

Frankly, I don't give two shits about the FBI. Or any other law enforcement
agency. Reality is, the people who could most affect my life are criminals
who could nick my, and my clients data, passwords, IPR... whatever.

Bottom line is, there are a lot of totally bent techies out there, fed by a
lot of criminals, also a lot of totally incompetent techies out there, and
a lot of companies who don't have proper controls on what's really going
on.

--
zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416.
Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
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