The Negative Correlation Between Global Temperature Rise andCO2 Concentrations
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From: Bill Ward on 2 Oct 2009 03:16 On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:34:23 +0100, Cwatters wrote: > "Bill Ward" <bward(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message > news:xMOdnVkGzqWl2VjXnZ2dnUVZ_r1i4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> That's not a theory, Sam, it's a pair of statements. You need to >> explain why the increasing ocean temperatures did not cause CO2 to be >> outgassed, and where the CO2 from dissolving coral and other CaCO3 >> went, if not into the atmosphere. > > It appears to be staying in the surface water. The process of > transporting it to the depths has slowed reducing the overall uptake. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/12/sea-co2-climate-japan- environment > > Sea absorbing less CO2, scientists discover > > Quote: "..warmer conditions disrupt a process known as "ventilation" - > the way seawater flows and mixes and drags absorbed CO2 from surface > waters to the depths. He warns that the effect is probably not confined > to the Sea of Japan. It could also affect CO2 uptake in the Atlantic and > Southern oceans..... snip ... Announcing their results in the journal > Geophysical Research Letters, the scientists say: "The striking feature > is that nearly all anthropogenic CO2 taken up in the recent period was > confined to waters less than 300 metres in depth." The Sea of Japan is hardly the globe. I'd expect much more absorption at 4C in the polar regions than 14C in the Sea of Japan. It's hardly a surprise that turbulence in the surface layer speeds the absorption. Look at these and see if you can tell where you think the CO2 will be absorbed and where it will outgas: <http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/a/aa/Annual_Average_Temperature_Map.jpg> <http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/b/b0/Thermohaline_circulation.png>
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Oct 2009 23:01 I M @ good guy wrote: > > If all the ice near the poles and on Greenland > was at exactly -1 C, then a couple of degrees would > make a difference. You should probably research your hypothesis. > > Fortunately for coastal areas most of the ice > is way below zero, some as much as 50 degrees > or more below zero. > The fact is that ice is flowing to the sea.
From: Day Brown on 19 Oct 2009 01:17
Last Post wrote: > Either way short term or long term the data > doesn't support man made global warming? > > short term > http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/RSSglobe.html > long term > http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Moberg2005.html Whether its man made or not, it is going on, and it will cause climate changes that those who adjust to properly will prosper from while those who do not will suffer, maybe die. |