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From: Szczepan on 27 Sep 2009 11:38 "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOSPAM(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote news:1-SdnfREj-kgXLTUnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d(a)posted.plusnet... > > "gabydewilde" <fototour(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:fbc15243-2f38-442a-94cf-5dfc4f8f20d0(a)f20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... > >>*** John Ernst Worrell Keely reported producing light in water (what >>is now termed sonoluminescence), > > Where did he report it? Clouds are also water. Cloud to cloud lightning is also sonoluminescence. In idustry spark jumps between water and a metal. ECM heating. S*
From: N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) on 27 Sep 2009 12:35 Dear Szczepan: "Szczepan" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message news:h9nlk7$eta$1(a)node1.news.atman.pl... > > "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOSPAM(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> > wrote news:1-SdnfREj-kgXLTUnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d(a)posted.plusnet... >> >> "gabydewilde" <fototour(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fbc15243-2f38-442a-94cf-5dfc4f8f20d0(a)f20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... >> >>>*** John Ernst Worrell Keely reported producing light >>> in water (what is now termed sonoluminescence), >> >> Where did he report it? > > Clouds are also water. Cloud to cloud lightning is also > sonoluminescence. No, it is not. There is no sonic-driven bubble formation/collapse. > In idustry spark jumps between water and a metal. > ECM heating. Plasma formation from electron bombardment is significantly different than sonoluminescence. David A. Smith
From: Szczepan on 27 Sep 2009 13:53 "N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <dlzc1(a)cox.net> wrote news:lvMvm.7031$Fg7.888(a)newsfe03.iad... > Dear Szczepan: > > "Szczepan" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message > news:h9nlk7$eta$1(a)node1.news.atman.pl... >> >> "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOSPAM(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote >> news:1-SdnfREj-kgXLTUnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d(a)posted.plusnet... >>> >>> "gabydewilde" <fototour(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:fbc15243-2f38-442a-94cf-5dfc4f8f20d0(a)f20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>*** John Ernst Worrell Keely reported producing light >>>> in water (what is now termed sonoluminescence), >>> >>> Where did he report it? >> >> Clouds are also water. Cloud to cloud lightning is also >> sonoluminescence. > > No, it is not. There is no sonic-driven bubble formation/collapse. Bubble formation/collapse are at cavitation. There are also small sparks. Do you know why? "The bubbles are very small when they emit the light-about 1 micrometre in diameter-depending on the ambient fluid (e.g., water) and the gas content of the bubble (e.g., atmospheric air)." Sono- should be changed in waterluminescence. > >> In idustry spark jumps between water and a metal. >> ECM heating. > > Plasma formation from electron bombardment is significantly different than > sonoluminescence. Each small spark is like light. S*
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 27 Sep 2009 14:04 Szczepan wrote: > "N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <dlzc1(a)cox.net> wrote > news:lvMvm.7031$Fg7.888(a)newsfe03.iad... >> Dear Szczepan: >> >> "Szczepan" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message >> news:h9nlk7$eta$1(a)node1.news.atman.pl... >>> "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOSPAM(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote >>> news:1-SdnfREj-kgXLTUnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d(a)posted.plusnet... >>>> "gabydewilde" <fototour(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:fbc15243-2f38-442a-94cf-5dfc4f8f20d0(a)f20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>> *** John Ernst Worrell Keely reported producing light >>>>> in water (what is now termed sonoluminescence), >>>> Where did he report it? >>> Clouds are also water. Cloud to cloud lightning is also >>> sonoluminescence. >> No, it is not. There is no sonic-driven bubble formation/collapse. > > Bubble formation/collapse are at cavitation. There are also small sparks. Do > you know why? > > "The bubbles are very small when they emit the light-about 1 micrometre in > diameter-depending on the ambient fluid (e.g., water) and the gas content of > the bubble (e.g., atmospheric air)." > > Sono- should be changed in waterluminescence. >>> In idustry spark jumps between water and a metal. >>> ECM heating. >> Plasma formation from electron bombardment is significantly different than >> sonoluminescence. > > Each small spark is like light. > S* > > And a camel is like a zebra. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) on 27 Sep 2009 15:11
Dear Szczepan: "Szczepan" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message news:h9ntg5$ftr$1(a)node1.news.atman.pl... .... >> No, it is not. There is no sonic-driven bubble >> formation/collapse. > > Bubble formation/collapse are at cavitation. There > are also small sparks. Do you know why? Do you have a citation? They emit light, because, among other things, the gas laws apply. As the pressure increases, so does the temperature, until a plasma forms. (And it is more complex than this.) > "The bubbles are very small when they emit the > light-about 1 micrometre in diameter-depending on the > ambient fluid (e.g., water) and the gas content of the bubble > (e.g., atmospheric air)." > > Sono- should be changed in waterluminescence. You should be charged admission. Do you think sonoluminescence only occurs in water? It has been seen to occur in silicone oil too. Probably more. >>> In idustry spark jumps between water and a metal. >>> ECM heating. >> >> Plasma formation from electron bombardment is >> significantly different than sonoluminescence. > > Each small spark is like light. Each light is not a spark. David A. Smith |