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From: ~BD~ on 14 Mar 2010 16:07 Andy Medina wrote: > "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hnc33k$fv5$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> In the 8+ years I've been troubleshooting this stuff as a freelancer, >> and the >> previous 10 years I worked in programming and tech support I have >> never been >> asked about my education by anybody, not even when I was the lead >> developer >> and chief software architect for a company making software to assist >> in organ >> transplants. > > I get asked that question a lot. But it's NOT because folks are > inquiring about my qualifications to perform a job. It comes AFTER I fix > something that many before me have tried and failed to fix and the > client is amazed I succeeded. It's a compliment in that they wonder why > I succeeded while others failed. What is the secret of *your* success, Andy? <smile> -- Dave
From: Leythos on 14 Mar 2010 17:02 In article <ON8Er76wKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, gmedina(a)email.arizona.edu says... > I get asked that question a lot. But it's NOT because folks are inquiring > about my qualifications to perform a job. It comes AFTER I fix something > that many before me have tried and failed to fix and the client is amazed I > succeeded. It's a compliment in that they wonder why I succeeded while > others failed. > In the 30+ years of working on computers and networks the only time I've been asked for credentials is from HR managers that don't know anything about IT and from people that have a ton of initials after their name and don't appear to know anything related to this initials. When people ask me what classes to take, well, I tell them that there are no real classes for what we do today, it's something that you can either learn on your own or you'll just be one of the level I or level II support types all your life. It's like any schooling you could take, it's enough to get you started, but you're not any good if you stop with what they teach in school. To be really good, at the architect level, or at the Level V support class, you need to live, eat, sleep computers and their designs, it's something in your blood and mindset. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Andy Medina on 14 Mar 2010 17:09 "~BD~" <BoaterDave.is.(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:D6ydnTyO35mG3wDWnZ2dnUVZ7qpi4p2d(a)bt.com... > Andy Medina wrote: >> "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:hnc33k$fv5$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >>> In the 8+ years I've been troubleshooting this stuff as a freelancer, >>> and the previous 10 years I worked in programming and tech support >>> I have never been asked about my education by anybody, not even >>> when I was the lead developer and chief software architect for a >>> company making software to assist in organ transplants. >> >> I get asked that question a lot. But it's NOT because folks are >> inquiring about my qualifications to perform a job. It comes AFTER I fix >> something that many before me have tried and failed to fix and the >> client is amazed I succeeded. It's a compliment in that they wonder why >> I succeeded while others failed. > > What is the secret of *your* success, Andy? <smile> Usually it's being able to think "outside the box" and approaching the system/problem "holistically".
From: Peter Foldes on 14 Mar 2010 17:10 +1 -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.260718e69941f50e98a1b2(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <ON8Er76wKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, > gmedina(a)email.arizona.edu says... >> I get asked that question a lot. But it's NOT because folks are inquiring >> about my qualifications to perform a job. It comes AFTER I fix something >> that many before me have tried and failed to fix and the client is amazed I >> succeeded. It's a compliment in that they wonder why I succeeded while >> others failed. >> > > In the 30+ years of working on computers and networks the only time I've > been asked for credentials is from HR managers that don't know anything > about IT and from people that have a ton of initials after their name > and don't appear to know anything related to this initials. > > When people ask me what classes to take, well, I tell them that there > are no real classes for what we do today, it's something that you can > either learn on your own or you'll just be one of the level I or level > II support types all your life. > > It's like any schooling you could take, it's enough to get you started, > but you're not any good if you stop with what they teach in school. To > be really good, at the architect level, or at the Level V support class, > you need to live, eat, sleep computers and their designs, it's something > in your blood and mindset. > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: ~BD~ on 14 Mar 2010 17:36
Andy Medina wrote: > "~BD~" <BoaterDave.is.(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:D6ydnTyO35mG3wDWnZ2dnUVZ7qpi4p2d(a)bt.com... >> Andy Medina wrote: >>> "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:hnc33k$fv5$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>>> In the 8+ years I've been troubleshooting this stuff as a >>>> freelancer, and the previous 10 years I worked in programming and >>>> tech support >>>> I have never been asked about my education by anybody, not even >>>> when I was the lead developer and chief software architect for a >>>> company making software to assist in organ transplants. >>> >>> I get asked that question a lot. But it's NOT because folks are >>> inquiring about my qualifications to perform a job. It comes AFTER I fix >>> something that many before me have tried and failed to fix and the >>> client is amazed I succeeded. It's a compliment in that they wonder why >>> I succeeded while others failed. >> >> What is the secret of *your* success, Andy? <smile> > > Usually it's being able to think "outside the box" and approaching the > system/problem "holistically". > Well, full marks to you! 10/10 Out of interest, *do* you have 'computing' qualifications as well? -- Dave (just a user!) |