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From: Michael Helland on 7 May 2010 16:34
There is no range for light.

Obviously it seems to travel for about 14 billion years and then stops.
From: Sam Wormley on 7 May 2010 16:39
On 5/7/10 3:34 PM, Michael Helland wrote:
> There is no range for light.
>
> Obviously it seems to travel for about 14 billion years and then stops.

No--Use your head. There were plenty of CMB photon out there in the
past. There are plenty now and there will be plenty in the future.

Two of the know fundamental forces in nature electromagnetic and
gravity have infinite range. There is no evidence to the contrary
and copious evidence in support.


From: Michael Helland on 7 May 2010 16:47
On May 7, 1:39 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/7/10 3:34 PM, Michael Helland wrote:
>
> > There is no range for light.
>
> > Obviously it seems to travel for about 14 billion years and then stops.
>
>    No--Use your head. There were plenty of CMB photon out there in the
>    past. There are plenty now and there will be plenty in the future.

Except you believe the CMB is a remnant of the Big Bang, where I
believe they are just light at the very end of their range, and
constantly being created by the horribly faint galaxies at the edge of
our Hubble Sphere.

Thank you, Sam, for pointing out yet another different prediction of
my model versus the Big Bang.


>    Two of the know fundamental forces in nature electromagnetic and
>    gravity have infinite range. There is no evidence to the contrary
>    and copious evidence in support.

There is plenty of evidence to support light has a finite range.

The Hubble limit is a hodge-podge attempt at it.
From: bert on 7 May 2010 18:27
On May 7, 4:39 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/7/10 3:34 PM, Michael Helland wrote:
>
> > There is no range for light.
>
> > Obviously it seems to travel for about 14 billion years and then stops.
>
>    No--Use your head. There were plenty of CMB photon out there in the
>    past. There are plenty now and there will be plenty in the future.
>
>    Two of the know fundamental forces in nature electromagnetic and
>    gravity have infinite range. There is no evidence to the contrary
>    and copious evidence in support.

Photons from the BB are with us today. Photons never change speed nor
do they bounce. Trebert
From: bert on 7 May 2010 18:34
On May 7, 4:47 pm, Michael Helland <mobyd...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 1:39 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 5/7/10 3:34 PM, Michael Helland wrote:
>
> > > There is no range for light.
>
> > > Obviously it seems to travel for about 14 billion years and then stops.
>
> >    No--Use your head. There were plenty of CMB photon out there in the
> >    past. There are plenty now and there will be plenty in the future.
>
> Except you believe the CMB is a remnant of the Big Bang, where I
> believe they are just light at the very end of their range, and
> constantly being created by the horribly faint galaxies at the edge of
> our Hubble Sphere.
>
> Thank you, Sam, for pointing out yet another different prediction of
> my model versus the Big Bang.
>
> >    Two of the know fundamental forces in nature electromagnetic and
> >    gravity have infinite range. There is no evidence to the contrary
> >    and copious evidence in support.
>
> There is plenty of evidence to support light has a finite range.
>
> The Hubble limit is a hodge-podge attempt at it.

light dims with distance,but can never come to an end.Photons waves
get shorter or longer. If long we detect them with radio antennas.
(Chile has the biggest) Trebert
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