From: J. Clarke on
Mark Borgerson wrote:
> In article <hl162u0173l(a)news4.newsguy.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol says...
>> Bob Myers wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>> Bob Myers wrote:
>>>>> Darwin123 wrote:
>>>>>> How about removing all regulations concerning units and see
>>>>>> what individuals and companies would do?
>>>>> That's the most sensible solution I've seen here yet - which,
>>>>> of course, is why it will probably never happen!
>>>>>
>>>> The only reason you are able to read these posts is because
>>>> we introduced and developed standards. don't throw the
>>>> bath water out with the babies.
>>>
>>> While (as noted earlier) my original comment was at least
>>> half in jest, I am prompted to ask re this one: who is this
>>> "we" you're talking about?
>>
>> People who wrote the code to make the hardware work.
>>
>>> Many - probably most - of the
>>> most successful standards in use today were developed by
>>> industry groups responding to market needs, not through
>>> government regulation.
>>
>> The government regulation happened after the standards
>> were made. This is what creates unique standards rather
>> than forcing the buyers of the products to choose between
>> a dozen, or dozens, of standards.
>>
>>>
>>> I've spent more than my fair share of time working in such
>>> groups, and would MUCH rather deal with industry
>>> standardization efforts than government or quasi-governmental
>>> regulation.
>>>
>> But the it's the governments' choices of which standard will
>> be used when deciding procurements. After that, the laws
>> about regulations happen if the industry isn't adept to
>> changing needs of the populace. A good example is
>> the telephone industry ;-). Another one is the airplane
>> business.
>>
> I think it will take something between a 60mm mortar and
> a 155mm howitzer shell to budge Andrew from his position!
> ;-)

16 inch, for when you care enough to give only the very best.


From: Bob Myers on
Andrew Usher wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:25 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote:
>> Androcles wrote:
>>>> So, you'll want to export your "inched" equipment and machines to
>>>> where? Are you taking into account the clients' will in your sales
>>>> dpt?
>>
>>> Machines today are CNC, so you can have both.
>>
>> Wow, and you say the drills and other tooling will also
>> automagically change to the system in use without having
>> to produce/stock/maintain both types? Imagine that...
>
> Drills already have interchangeable bits,

Ah, another person who's never seen the inside of
a machine shop...

FYI, a "drill" in this context is a rod of metal with a
sharp end and a helical cutting surface machined into
it, useful in creating holes in metal; a "bit" is something
wordworkers use in conjunction with a device called a
"brace." You might get more of a clue about this through
a consideration of terms such as "drill press" and "drill
index."

Bob M.


From: Michael Press on
In article <hkvs6q$324$1(a)news-int2.gatech.edu>,
Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18(a)verizon.invalid> wrote:

> On 02/05/2010 10:05 PM, Bart Goddard wrote:
> > adamk<adamk(a)adamk.net> wrote in
> > news:752291235.119340.1265419992761.JavaMail.root(a)gallium.mathforum.org:
> >
> >> Wrong. Chinese and Hindi are the most spoken.
> >
> > Not wrong. If you google and wiki about, you'll
> > see that the numbers of speakers of various
> > languages vary widely. You may fail to see,
> > however, that the number rarely include India
> > among English-speaking nation, yet English is
> > the official language of India. Once you add
> > the population of India to that number (which
> > you should for the purposes of this discussion,
> > which is about trades between nations) then
> > English slaughters all other languages.
>
> Just because a language is the official language does not mean that most
> people in the country can speak it. For example, Afrikaans was (and
> still is) an official language of South Africa. However, Wikipedia lists
> that just 13.3% of South Africans can speak it. I don't know the extent
> to which English is known in India, but I'd be surprised if even half of
> the Indians could speak it to a workable degree, let alone demonstrate
> fluency.

Let me google that for you.
Official languages: Hindi
Subsidiary official language: English
Twenty two recognized subsidiary languages. Probably 3
percent are literate in English, and probably for the
purposes of international commerce, academics,
professionals, and diplomacy. Probably more than 3
percent understand or speak English. Data is scarce on
the ground. English serves as lingua franca in a
country with 22 regional languages.

<http://www.indianchild.com/english_in_india.ht>

______


I was listening to Shekhar Kapur (a Pakistani) give his
commentary on a DVD recording of his movie Elizabeth
[1998]. As I listened closely I could pick out a
distinct Irish brogue.

--
Michael Press
From: Andrew Usher on
Bob Myers wrote:

> > Drills already have interchangeable bits,
>
> Ah, another person who's never seen the inside of
> a machine shop...

OK, perhaps I didn't use the right terminology; I used that which I am
familiar. Nevertheless, my point stands that you don't normally need a
different machine for each different size of drilling.

And honestly you must know that.

Andrew Usher
From: Andrew Usher on
Darwin123 wrote:

>
> > The truth is, the leftist machine has gotten people's minds to feel
> > sorry for our measuring system, just like they've gotten white men to
> > feel sorry for being white and male.
>
> Your metaphors are gang raping the English language.

My assertion is not a metaphor here. It's entirely literal: Americans
now feel they must apologise for having a 'backward' system of
measure.

Andrew Usher