From: Sak Wathanasin on
On 9 June, 21:02, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> Gareth John <g.j...(a)PLUG.btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Peter Ceresole <pe...(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Jim <j...(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I -lived- in dBaseII (and then later IV, missing III mostly) for
> > > > about a
> >>> decade. I also dabbled in Clipper (dBaseIII compiler).
>
> >> There you go. I only encountered dBaseII via a friend who wrote a
> >> lepidopterists' database, so I always associated that dot with
> > > beetles,
> >> and somehow imagined there must be a dBaseI out there. And ever
> > > since,
> >> I've hated all databases.
>
> >>> I want those years back.
>
> >> Aaaaah. The beetles were so beautiful.
>
> > Lepidopterist? Moths and butterfiles, shurely? Beetles are for
> > coleopterists, I think.
>
> Coleopterists are people who design Apple's new Rectal Display
> technology.

Colonopterisrts, shurely?


From: Jim on
On 2010-06-10, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> My point is that each of these things can store items that themselves
>> store items, but they are *different* to one another. You can store a
>> folder in a hanging file but you're unlikely to store a hanging file
>> inside a hanging file (at least, unless you're storing them for later
>> use).
>
> No, but as I say, we do have folders within folders. And the hanging
> file itself is a folder, just with extra hooks to hang on the runners.
> So yes it's slightly different, but still a folder. I wish real life was
> more like the Finder, with virtually infinite hierarchy, fast finding,
> several different views, sort by different criteria etc.

I wish real life had Time Machine.

grumble...

Jim
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From: Peter Ceresole on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> I wish real life was more like the Finder

Dead right.

There was a rather terrific fantasy Western many years ago, in the days
when Hollywood made films other than for bloodthirsty teenagers, which
started out with a voice over saying 'People say the movies should be
more like life. The wise man says no, life should be more like the
movies'.

And proving the point, I Googled the phrase and it turns out that
although I'd completely forgotten the name of the film, it's 'Red
Garters' by George Marshall, 1954. And Myrna Loy said the same thing in
'To Mary, with Love' in 1936, but I never saw that one.

If the stuff had been in *real* folders, I'd never have found them.
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From: zoara on
Ian Piper <ianpiper(a)mac.com> wrote:
> On 2010-06-07 22:37:45 +0100, flavio_mataniTAKETHISBITOUT(a)mac.com
> (Flavio Matani) said:
>
>>>>>> Aha! They're in white-back as well. Niiice.
>>>>>>>>> White-front as well, which is new. The home button looks
> > > > > > > > > weird.
>>>>>>>>> However, that's the one I'm getting. All very 2001-esque. Or
> > > > > > > > > Buck
>>>>> Rogers, as the guys at work insist.
>>>>>>> I might dust off my old iPod and pretend it is an iPhone 4.
>>>>> Exactly. White plastic gadgets are the best.
>>>> I beg to differ:P
>
>
> Me too. I just saw the white iPhone on their website and I think it
> looks horrible.

Good, cos that means slighty more chance they'll have stock when I go
pick mine up.

I'm not sure about the silvered grid above the earpiece though.
Presumably that's for the proximity sensors? It does look a bit odd, the
black one carries that off better.

-z-


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From: zoara on
Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:
> On 2010-06-07 22:21:41 +0100, me18(a)privacy.net (zoara) said:
>
>> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> - Folders! I trust that means what I think it means.
>>> Not really. Folders, but not subfolders.
>>> I'm on Apple's side on this one but I reckon many won't be.
>
> That will be me then.

My argument is that they closer mirror reality. Infinite folder depth is
good for geeks but I doubt normal people get more benefit than cost from
the added complexity of the mental model and/or navigation requirements.

-z-



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