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From: Mensanator on 26 Feb 2010 20:12 On Feb 26, 6:08 pm, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep> wrote: > jmfbahciv wrote: > > I used to solve my really pesky problems by dreaming the solution, > > or workaround. Sleeping is useful. > > There once was a time when I was struggling with difficult theoretical > problems, and I would wake up in the middle of the night with solutions, > or at least with important insights. Once the morning arrived, I would > recall getting the insights, but couldn't remember what they were. > > To fix the problem I put a notepad and pen beside my bed, and went to > bed with the firm resolve to write down any ideas I got in the night. It > worked: I woke up with yet another brilliant idea, and spent some time > writing down all the details. I used to wonder if that worked. > > In the morning, I found the sort of scrawl a two-year-old might have > written. One day I caught my subconscience red handed. I dreamed I was signing in at a hospital. After signing my name and entering the date, the nurse looked at it and said "That's last week." I took it back and saw that I had reversed the date, writing DD/MM/YYYY instead of MM/DD/ YYYY. Of course, once I woke up, I could not remember the date. But I thought "Aha! I can figure it out. What dates would, when reversed, give you a week earlier?" Turns out there is no such date. My subconscience was not, in fact, dreaming up useful ideas. I wasn't missing anything by not writing them down. > > -- > Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org > For an e-mail address, see my web page.
From: DKleinecke on 26 Feb 2010 20:40 On Feb 26, 5:12 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 26, 6:08 pm, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep> wrote: > > jmfbahciv wrote: > > > I used to solve my really pesky problems by dreaming the solution, > > > or workaround. Sleeping is useful. > > > There once was a time when I was struggling with difficult theoretical > > problems, and I would wake up in the middle of the night with solutions, > > or at least with important insights. Once the morning arrived, I would > > recall getting the insights, but couldn't remember what they were. > > > To fix the problem I put a notepad and pen beside my bed, and went to > > bed with the firm resolve to write down any ideas I got in the night. It > > worked: I woke up with yet another brilliant idea, and spent some time > > writing down all the details. > > My subconscience was not, in fact, > dreaming up useful ideas. I wasn't missing anything by not writing > them down. I generally put myself to sleep by working on one or another kind of intellectual task - writing a paper or solving a problem. I find it very soporific. While I am dozing off I will jerk back from my line of thought to something resembling a waking state and generally discover that I have instantly forgotten the chain of thought. The relatively few times I do remember something have convinced me I have lost nothing worthwhile. My subconscious or whatever is guiding me deals, it seems, entirely in nonsense. I dream frequently and vividly and it seems to me that I have a much better recall of my latest dream when I awaken than I have of dozing- off thoughts. I do not make a record of my dreams and all memory of them quickly fades away.
From: sjdevnull on 26 Feb 2010 21:11 On Feb 26, 7:00 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > On Feb 26, 6:45 pm, "sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com" <sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 3:51 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On Feb 26, 2:30 pm, "sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com" <sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 12:52 pm, mstem...(a)walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > In article <7uomssFvk...(a)mid.individual.net>, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> writes: > > > > > >tony cooper wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:14:04 +0800, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> Ant nio Marques wrote: > > > > > > >>>> It's not what you think. Either the Church's message is universal and > > > > > >>>> Christ did found one Church, or it isn't. > > > > > >>> Now there's a new one: the first I've heard that Jesus founded or even > > > > > >>> wanted a church. > > > > > > >> I thought he delegated the job to Peter. > > > > > > >I don't think so. I believe he did ask Peter and the others to keep on > > > > > >spreading the word, but I have seen no mention of churches, priests, > > > > > >buildings, vestments or choir boys in the New Testament. > > > > > > Try Mt 16:17-18. > > > > > The closest I see there is the word "build": > > > >  17And Jesus answering said to him, `Happy art thou, Simon Bar-Jona, > > > > because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to thee, but my Father who > > > > is in the heavens. > > > >  18`And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I > > > > will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against > > > > it; > > > > (Young's Literal Translation) > > > > > Note that "ecclesia" is sometimes mistranslated as "church"; in > > > > reality it meant "assembly"--the most well-known "ecclesia" prior to > > > > the writing of Matthew would have been the democratic gatherings of > > > > Athens, which went under that name.  There's no reason to think that > > > > it meant anything like the organized hierarchy of the modern Church..- > > > > What the hell is "Young's Literal Translation"? Is that one of those > > > misguided efforts to render every word of the Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek the > > > same way in English every time it appears? When was it done? > > > It's a literal translation of the Bible, done in 1862.  The particular > > credentials of Young's aren't important in this case, because plenty > > of other scholarly translations (e.g the 1997 version of the American > > Standard Version, Darby's) render the passage the same way, but more > > importantly because the word in question is easily verified as > > "εκκληÏιαν" or "ecclesia" and you can easily research the history of > > that word yourself without having to rely on someone else's > > translation abilities; at the time of writing, it meant "assembly", > > and it wasn't until later that it acquired the second meaning of > > "church".- > > But rather than answer Robert's question, you chose to obfuscate by > quoting an incompetent and outmoded "literal" translation. It was a bit of a polemical post, yes, attempting to convey that the issue of translation is a significant one. My apologies for the opacity. That said, the particulars of the version are irrelevant (and modern versions like the 1997 version of the ASV use the same word)--you can find the word yourself and look at its historical meaning.
From: James Silverton on 26 Feb 2010 21:43 R wrote on 26 Feb 2010 08:26:47 -0800: > James Silverton filted: >> >> I am trying to remember when Fortran introduced arrays with >> arbitrary indexing, that is, starting at numbers other than >> 1. I have not programmed in Fortran in years and I do >> remember the change but not when it happened. > Somewhere buried in storage I have a book on Fortran that > compares seventy or eighty implementations of the language > (each time a feature is introduced, there's a table showing > whether it exists in that flavor, and exactly what the > restrictions are)...the table on subscripting gives such > varieties as: > positive integer constant > scalar integer variable (n) > integer variable plus or minus integer constant (n+i, n-i) > integer multiple of variable plus or minus constant (i*n+j, > i*n-j)arbitrary integer expressions > arbitrary expressions of any type so long as they're > convertible to integer > Most Fortrans allowed only the first four of these; the last > two were considered wild-eyed and radical...you couldn't run > backwards through an array with a loop incrementing KOUNT from > 1 to 10, subscripting the array with 11-KOUNT; things had to > be in exactly one of the approved forms...and you certainly > couldn't combine multiple variables in one, or use an element > of one array as an index in another like > VALUES(ISIZE(ITABLE(K))).... > *Defining* arrays was even more strict...either a constant or, > if the array was a subroutine parameter, a constant that was > *also* a parameter.... > A similar table gave the same levels of complexity for the > upper and lower bounds of a DO statement, and for the > increment....r I think I have found the answer. It was Fortran77 according to: http://orion.math.iastate.edu/burkardt/papers/fortran_arrays.html -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
From: David Bernier on 26 Feb 2010 22:34
DKleinecke wrote: > On Feb 26, 5:12 pm, Mensanator <mensana...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> On Feb 26, 6:08 pm, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep> wrote: >>> jmfbahciv wrote: >>>> I used to solve my really pesky problems by dreaming the solution, >>>> or workaround. Sleeping is useful. >>> There once was a time when I was struggling with difficult theoretical >>> problems, and I would wake up in the middle of the night with solutions, >>> or at least with important insights. Once the morning arrived, I would >>> recall getting the insights, but couldn't remember what they were. >>> To fix the problem I put a notepad and pen beside my bed, and went to >>> bed with the firm resolve to write down any ideas I got in the night. It >>> worked: I woke up with yet another brilliant idea, and spent some time >>> writing down all the details. >> My subconscience was not, in fact, >> dreaming up useful ideas. I wasn't missing anything by not writing >> them down. > > I generally put myself to sleep by working on one or another kind of > intellectual task - writing a paper or solving a problem. I find it > very soporific. > > While I am dozing off I will jerk back from my line of thought to > something resembling a waking state and generally discover that I have > instantly forgotten the chain of thought. The relatively few times I > do remember something have convinced me I have lost nothing > worthwhile. My subconscious or whatever is guiding me deals, it seems, > entirely in nonsense. > > I dream frequently and vividly and it seems to me that I have a much > better recall of my latest dream when I awaken than I have of dozing- > off thoughts. I do not make a record of my dreams and all memory of > them quickly fades away. I've secretly been listening to a sound file containing theta wave binaural beats. According to Wikipedia, < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats > theta waves are usually associated to dreams, deep meditation and REM sleep. The theta wave binaural beats produce drowsiness in me. Source of the files: < http://www.archive.org/details/20091111BinauralBeats > . |