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From: Peter T. Daniels on 4 Mar 2010 13:40 On Mar 4, 1:10 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Transfer Principle wrote: > > Yes, the only official name of the mid-February federal > > holiday is Washington's Birthday. As was pointed out > > earlier in the thread, Washington's Birthday can never > > fall on his actual birthday (which was February 22nd > > Gregorian, though when Washington was born Britain and > > its colonies were still on the Julian calendar). > > Strange, isn't it? I can't understand why Lincoln got screwed! > > > Many school districts take off two Mondays in February, > > one each for Lincoln and Washington. > > Obviously practice varies here; I don't remember two Mondays off. In my school, Lincoln's Birthday was Fathers Day, and if Washington's Birthday was a holiday, it was observed on February 22 (as everywhere else). > > Notice that in the Usher reform plan, the federal > > holiday would fall in the February 16th-22nd range, > > rather than the current 15th-21st range. Thus the > > Usher Washington's Birthday can actually fall on > > Washington's birthday, unlike the current holiday. > > OK, I've added this to my calendar. I said originally that all > holidays that are now taken on Monday etc. should be fixed to a > particular week of my calendar. > > > Moving from California to Louisiana, it was pointed > > out that many Louisianans take Shrove Tuesday (i.e., > > Mardi Gras) off. But this is awkward since after the > > weekend of Saturday and Sunday, there's a single day > > of work on Monday before the Tuesday holiday. In the > > Usher plan, Mardi Gras, being 47 days before the > > Usher Easter (April 5th-11th), would fall in the > > February 17th-23rd range -- in other words, it's > > always one day after Usher Wasington's Birthday. So > > Louisianans would always have a full four-day weekend > > under the Usher plan (Sat-Sun-Washington-Mardi Gras). > > That's right but it's not terribly surprising because they are, after > all, tied to the same week in that case. I suppose it would matter > less outside Louisiana, but at least it wouldn't hurt. That was the > point of me using the Christian holidays, and I can't understand why > Peter Daniels wouldn't understand that. You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting the days or dates of religious observations. I'm not sure what it is you think I didn't understand. > > Notice that the two major public university systems in > > California (UC and CSU) no longer tie their spring > > breaks to Easter (as is traditional). Instead, spring > > break in these two university systems is now the week > > that contains Chavez Day. This reflects a current trend > > across the nation (and possibly the globe) of having > > spring break appear at a fixed point in the term, > > rather than tied to Easter with its five-week swing. > > It's also because US universities have changed to the semester system > that they generally want their break during March, to be more nearly > toward the middle of the semester. "Changed"?
From: Adam Funk on 4 Mar 2010 15:39 On 2010-03-02, Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >> >> > Then where are you posting from? >> >> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC. Look it up, or don't >> >> ^ >> Look! There's another one. Whenever you quote me there's a little >> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces >> are. > > I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so > it's not me. Google groupers' FUs usually have a bunch of 0xA0 characters. -- Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. [Mencken]
From: R H Draney on 4 Mar 2010 16:25 Adam Funk filted: > >On 2010-03-02, Peter T. Daniels wrote: > >> On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >>> >>> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >>> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >>> >>> >> > Then where are you posting from? >>> >>> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC. Look it up, or don't >>> >>> ^ >>> Look! There's another one. Whenever you quote me there's a little >>> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces >>> are. >> >> I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so >> it's not me. > >Google groupers' FUs usually have a bunch of 0xA0 characters. And a "Show quoted text"/"Hide quoted text" skidmark....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: Lewis on 4 Mar 2010 21:35 On 04-Mar-10 11:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote: > You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting > the days or dates of religious observations. Agreed. Leave the religious holidays to the religious. -- Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade
From: Andrew Usher on 4 Mar 2010 22:24
Lewis wrote: > On 04-Mar-10 11:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting > > the days or dates of religious observations. > > Agreed. Leave the religious holidays to the religious. How about leaving defending them to the religious? I haven't seen anyone oppose me for religious reasons. And the only reason I proposed it is because of the secular use of the holidays. Andrew Usher |