From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Mar 4, 1:10 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Transfer Principle wrote:
> > Yes, the only official name of the mid-February federal
> > holiday is Washington's Birthday. As was pointed out
> > earlier in the thread, Washington's Birthday can never
> > fall on his actual birthday (which was February 22nd
> > Gregorian, though when Washington was born Britain and
> > its colonies were still on the Julian calendar).
>
> Strange, isn't it? I can't understand why Lincoln got screwed!
>
> > Many school districts take off two Mondays in February,
> > one each for Lincoln and Washington.
>
> Obviously practice varies here; I don't remember two Mondays off.

In my school, Lincoln's Birthday was Fathers Day, and if Washington's
Birthday was a holiday, it was observed on February 22 (as everywhere
else).

> > Notice that in the Usher reform plan, the federal
> > holiday would fall in the February 16th-22nd range,
> > rather than the current 15th-21st range. Thus the
> > Usher Washington's Birthday can actually fall on
> > Washington's birthday, unlike the current holiday.
>
> OK, I've added this to my calendar. I said originally that all
> holidays that are now taken on Monday etc. should be fixed to a
> particular week of my calendar.
>
> > Moving from California to Louisiana, it was pointed
> > out that many Louisianans take Shrove Tuesday (i.e.,
> > Mardi Gras) off. But this is awkward since after the
> > weekend of Saturday and Sunday, there's a single day
> > of work on Monday before the Tuesday holiday. In the
> > Usher plan, Mardi Gras, being 47 days before the
> > Usher Easter (April 5th-11th), would fall in the
> > February 17th-23rd range -- in other words, it's
> > always one day after Usher Wasington's Birthday. So
> > Louisianans would always have a full four-day weekend
> > under the Usher plan (Sat-Sun-Washington-Mardi Gras).
>
> That's right but it's not terribly surprising because they are, after
> all, tied to the same week in that case. I suppose it would matter
> less outside Louisiana, but at least it wouldn't hurt. That was the
> point of me using the Christian holidays, and I can't understand why
> Peter Daniels wouldn't understand that.

You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting
the days or dates of religious observations.

I'm not sure what it is you think I didn't understand.

> > Notice that the two major public university systems in
> > California (UC and CSU) no longer tie their spring
> > breaks to Easter (as is traditional). Instead, spring
> > break in these two university systems is now the week
> > that contains Chavez Day. This reflects a current trend
> > across the nation (and possibly the globe) of having
> > spring break appear at a fixed point in the term,
> > rather than tied to Easter with its five-week swing.
>
> It's also because US universities have changed to the semester system
> that they generally want their break during March, to be more nearly
> toward the middle of the semester.

"Changed"?
From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-03-02, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>
>> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>
>> >> > Then where are you posting from?
>>
>> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC.  Look it up, or don't
>>
>>                                                   ^
>> Look!  There's another one.  Whenever you quote me there's a little
>> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
>> are.
>
> I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so
> it's not me.

Google groupers' FUs usually have a bunch of 0xA0 characters.


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From: R H Draney on
Adam Funk filted:
>
>On 2010-03-02, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
>> On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>>> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>> >> > Then where are you posting from?
>>>
>>> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC.  Look it up, or don't
>>>
>>>                                                   ^
>>> Look!  There's another one.  Whenever you quote me there's a little
>>> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
>>> are.
>>
>> I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so
>> it's not me.
>
>Google groupers' FUs usually have a bunch of 0xA0 characters.

And a "Show quoted text"/"Hide quoted text" skidmark....r


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From: Lewis on
On 04-Mar-10 11:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting
> the days or dates of religious observations.

Agreed. Leave the religious holidays to the religious.

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From: Andrew Usher on
Lewis wrote:
> On 04-Mar-10 11:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > You, as a secular (non)authority, have no business meddling in setting
> > the days or dates of religious observations.
>
> Agreed. Leave the religious holidays to the religious.

How about leaving defending them to the religious? I haven't seen
anyone oppose me for religious reasons. And the only reason I proposed
it is because of the secular use of the holidays.

Andrew Usher