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From: jmfbahciv on 2 Mar 2010 08:55 J. Clarke wrote: > On 2/28/2010 2:09 PM, David Harmon wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote, >>> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on >>> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the >> >> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices. >> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp > > While that is a true statement, it does not alter the fact that the post > office was closed on that date. >> > And some businesses considered it as a paid holiday. /BAH
From: Cheryl on 2 Mar 2010 08:47 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Mar 2, 6:39 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: >> CDB wrote: >>> Robert Bannister wrote: >>>> Hatunen wrote: >>>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >>>>>> Hatunen<hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool >>>>>>>> means about 25 , and really good weather starts at about >>>>>>>> 30 . And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed. >>>>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees. >>>>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz. >>>>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" >>>>> or "F". >>>> I thought there was only one country that used F, although I suppose >>>> Canada swings both ways, so we only have to remember who lives in >>>> America. >>> We still use imperial for some things, but temperatures, apart from >>> body-temperatures, are Celsius. I would be surprised to find someone >>> under 30 who was comfortable with Fahrenheit. >> And baking. Most ovens and recipes have Fahrenheit. >> >> Everyone uses Celsius for the weather. >> >> It seems as though we got stuck halfway in the conversion process - >> fabric and other sewing materials have been sold by metric measures for >> many years, but when looking for a new curtain-rod recently, I noticed >> that the type I was looking for was offered in 7 or 10 foot lengths >> (which were singularly useless since I was looking for 5 foot lengths). > > Might I suggest that (unless you were looking at fantastically > expensive yard goods with a one-off, non-repeating, pattern) that you > purchase 10-foot material and cut it in half? No, it was the rod that was far too long (and hence, of course, more expensive than I wanted). I suppose I could have cut the rod to measure, if I knew someone who could cut metal. I can't, as I found out when I tried to cut a metal rod with a hacksaw to the right size to fix a folding chair. I think it's easier to buy a new folding chair. But back to the curtains - oddly enough, one set does have a complicated pattern with a central medallion, which means the fabric couldn't be sliced lengthwise without spoiling the effect. Since I want full curtains, I'm using the full width of the fabric for each panel, minus a bit for curtain ties. The fabric was bought by metric measures, which in the case of width, by an odd coincidence turns out to be 60 inches. I suspect the looms haven't been converted to metric measurement. >> Maybe they haven't converted the curtain-rod factories yet, or maybe >> we're lumped in as a market with the US, so we get sometimes get US >> goods, with maybe a sticker with the metric equivalent stuck on the >> package). >> >> I think the nurses weigh newborns in metric, and convert the weight to >> pounds for the proud parents. I've never really understood why the first >> thing (after boy or girl?) people want to announce is how heavy the baby is. > > An indication of healthiness? > > And, 15 or so years later, the mother will want to be able to clarify > to the offspring how many hours she spent in pain delivering that > enormous mass of needs and demands and this is the thanks she gets. Very true. But now they say that babies who are too fat will have weight problems the rest of their lives. I wondered if the mothers of large babies wanted their sufferings understood, because other mothers of large babies would be sure to sympathize. -- Cheryl
From: Peter T. Daniels on 2 Mar 2010 08:57 On Mar 2, 8:47 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > On Mar 2, 6:39 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > >> CDB wrote: > >>> Robert Bannister wrote: > >>>> Hatunen wrote: > >>>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> Hatunen<hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >>> >>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> [...] > >>>>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool > >>>>>>>> means about 25 , and really good weather starts at about > >>>>>>>> 30 . And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed. > >>>>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees. > >>>>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz. > >>>>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" > >>>>> or "F". > >>>> I thought there was only one country that used F, although I suppose > >>>> Canada swings both ways, so we only have to remember who lives in > >>>> America. > >>> We still use imperial for some things, but temperatures, apart from > >>> body-temperatures, are Celsius. I would be surprised to find someone > >>> under 30 who was comfortable with Fahrenheit. > >> And baking. Most ovens and recipes have Fahrenheit. > > >> Everyone uses Celsius for the weather. > > >> It seems as though we got stuck halfway in the conversion process - > >> fabric and other sewing materials have been sold by metric measures for > >> many years, but when looking for a new curtain-rod recently, I noticed > >> that the type I was looking for was offered in 7 or 10 foot lengths > >> (which were singularly useless since I was looking for 5 foot lengths).. > > > Might I suggest that (unless you were looking at fantastically > > expensive yard goods with a one-off, non-repeating, pattern) that you > > purchase 10-foot material and cut it in half? > > No, it was the rod that was far too long (and hence, of course, more > expensive than I wanted). I suppose I could have cut the rod to measure, > if I knew someone who could cut metal. I can't, as I found out when I > tried to cut a metal rod with a hacksaw to the right size to fix a > folding chair. I think it's easier to buy a new folding chair. Oops, sorry. The only curtain rods I've ever dealt with telescope. > But back to the curtains - oddly enough, one set does have a complicated > pattern with a central medallion, which means the fabric couldn't be > sliced lengthwise without spoiling the effect. Since I want full > curtains, I'm using the full width of the fabric for each panel, minus a > bit for curtain ties. The fabric was bought by metric measures, which in > the case of width, by an odd coincidence turns out to be 60 inches. I > suspect the looms haven't been converted to metric measurement. > > >> Maybe they haven't converted the curtain-rod factories yet, or maybe > >> we're lumped in as a market with the US, so we get sometimes get US > >> goods, with maybe a sticker with the metric equivalent stuck on the > >> package). > > >> I think the nurses weigh newborns in metric, and convert the weight to > >> pounds for the proud parents. I've never really understood why the first > >> thing (after boy or girl?) people want to announce is how heavy the baby is. > > > An indication of healthiness? > > > And, 15 or so years later, the mother will want to be able to clarify > > to the offspring how many hours she spent in pain delivering that > > enormous mass of needs and demands and this is the thanks she gets. > > Very true. > > But now they say that babies who are too fat will have weight problems > the rest of their lives. > > I wondered if the mothers of large babies wanted their sufferings > understood, because other mothers of large babies would be sure to > sympathize.
From: J. Clarke on 2 Mar 2010 09:06 On 3/2/2010 4:38 AM, Lewis wrote: > On 28-Feb-10 18:07, Peter Moylan wrote: >> Nick wrote: >>> Peter Moylan<gro.nalyomp(a)retep> writes: >> >>>> At my confirmation my fingers definitely were crossed. In addition, I >>>> was muttering under my breath "a promise made under duress is not >>>> legally binding". >>>> >>>> Nobody asked me whether I wanted to be baptised or confirmed, and in >>>> any >>>> case I was too young to make an informed decision. Especially in the >>>> case of the baptism. >>> >>> Seems a bit pointless to me. You might as well go through it >>> wholeheartedly. After all, if it's rubbish then it's harmless - and if >>> it's not you probably wanted to do it. >> >> And if I picked the wrong god? I can think of at least one god who is >> hostile towards those who worship a different god. > > Aren't they all this way? Brings to mind a quote from the sig file, > attached as my sig. I think that most of the deities worshipped in the world today are not that way. Certainly the guy with the four letter Hebrew name is, and he seems to get most of the press, but are the numerous Kami all over Japan that way? How about the hundreds of deities in Chinese traditional religion? And then there's Hinduism . . .
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 2 Mar 2010 09:56
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > On Mar 1, 11:28�pm, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote: >> California punts on the question, just giving the date (except, >> interestingly, for Thanksgiving): >> >> � � Cal. Gov. Code 19853. �(a) All state employees shall be >> � � entitled to the following holidays: January 1, the third Monday >> � � in January, the third Monday in February, March 31, the last >> � � Monday in May, July 4, the first Monday in September, November >> � � 11, Thanksgiving Day, the day after Thanksgiving, December 25, >> � � the day chosen by an employee pursuant to Section 19854, and >> � � every day appointed by the Governor of this state for a public >> � � fast, thanksgiving, or holiday. >> >> but the Department of Personnel Administration apparently calls it >> "Presidents Birthday". >> >> � �http://www.dpa.ca.gov/personnel-policies/holidays.htm > > So only people born on the third Monday in February can be President > of California? > > What happened on March 31? C�sar Ch�vez was born. > Why couldn't they say "the fourth Thursday and Friday of November"? What makes you think they couldn't? A better question would be "Why didn't they?" -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Those who study history are doomed 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |to watch others repeat it. Palo Alto, CA 94304 kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ |