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From: Adam Funk on 23 Feb 2010 06:39 On 2010-02-23, Andrew Usher wrote: >> > The Catholic Church has stated, I believe more than once (it's linked >> > to somewhere in this thread) that fixing Easter to a particular week >> > would be acceptable. ("Catholic" is a commonly used but imprecise abbreviation of "Roman Catholic".) > Peter T. Daniels wrote: >> "The Catholic Church" (which refers to no specific organization) >> hasn't spoken for all of Christendom for nearly half a millennium. > > 'The Catholic Church' or simply 'The Church' refers to exactly one > organisation. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Also, it's been > longer than half a millennium if one includes the East. The "Roman Catholic Church", the "Old Catholic Church", and the "Polish National Catholic Church" are independent of each other. The "Eastern Catholic Churches" are under papal authority but I don't think they describe themselves as "Roman Catholic". -- The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. [Robert R. Coveyou]
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Feb 2010 07:16 J. Clarke wrote: > On 2/22/2010 9:46 AM, jmfbahciv wrote: >> Mike Barnes wrote: >>> Ant�nio Marques <entonio(a)gmail.com>: >>>> On Feb 21, 1:09 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> Mike Barnes wrote: >>>>>> Adam Funk <a24...(a)ducksburg.com>: >>>>>> >From man 5 crontab: >>>>>>> When specifying day of week, both day 0 and day 7 will be >>>>>>> considered Sunday. BSD and AT&T seem to disagree about this. >>>>>> But they presumably agree that day one is Monday. >>>>> But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0 >>>>> = Sunday. >>>> Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its >>>> family. And those who chose to imitate it. >>> >>> But not in the first language I used when working for a living (COBOL). >>> >> Nor FORTRAN DO statements. Most people start at 1. You can also >> write an off-by-1 bug in loops depending on whether you start the loop >> with 0 or 1. > > And in C and most C-derived languages those off-by-1 bugs abound. I've > never done a formal count but I suspect that half the patches Microsoft > has issued for Windows fix off-by-1 bugs. > > Memory management is not for the faint of heart. /BAH
From: Andrew Usher on 23 Feb 2010 07:04 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > > "The Catholic Church" (which refers to no specific organization) > > > hasn't spoken for all of Christendom for nearly half a millennium. > > > > 'The Catholic Church' or simply 'The Church' refers to exactly one > > organisation. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Also, it's been > > longer than half a millennium if one includes the East. > > One doesn't "include the East." One has to wonder what knowledge you > have of the Eastern churches. The word 'Christendom', which you used, would normally be taken to include the Eastern Orthodox. One wonders why you wouldn't. > Are you by any chance one of those crackpots who want the Mass > peformed in Latin, who think Jesus decreed that clergy be celibate, > and the congeries of heterodox beliefs that go along with those two? I don't believe in Jesus. But if I did, I might well be one of those, as religion if it were true could not be suffered to modernise in the way you leftists want. Andrew Usher
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Feb 2010 07:18 R H Draney wrote: > Adam Funk filted: >> On 2010-02-21, António Marques wrote: >> >>> On Feb 21, 1:09� am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0 >>>> = Sunday. >>> Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its >>> family. And those who chose to imitate it. >>From Verity Stob's "Thirteen Ways to Loathe VB": >> 4. Another thing about arrays. The index of the first element is 0, >> unless it is set to 1 by a directive. >> >> 5. But there are also collections, modern object-oriented versions >> of arrays. And the first element of these is usually 1, unless >> it happens to be 0. Sometimes it is 0 and sometimes it is 1, >> depending on where you found it. Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, >> do ya? > > In APL, indexing starts at one unless you've explicitly set it to zero by > setting the system variable quad-IO....r > > And a proper code would always set the index explictly, just in case something burbed when it should have barfed. /BAH
From: Andrew Usher on 23 Feb 2010 07:05
Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> > I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, > >> > >> ??? > > > > They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? > > I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, Rosh > Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four Christian > holidays. Well, yes, but not _more people_. Andrew Usher |