From: Robert Bannister on
CDB wrote:

> 'Tomorrow being the Feast of the Immaculate Conception,
> There will be no garbage collection in the city'; ...".

The idea of a Feast of the Immaculate Conception makes me lose my appetite.


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Rob Bannister
From: Andrew Usher on
Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> > Notice that the current USA Labor Day (first Monday in
> > September) already occurs exactly 11 weeks and three days
> > before Usher Thanksgiving. As Usher points out later, this
> > is convenient for college football, which traditionally began
> > on Labor Day weekend and ended on Thanksgiving, with enough
> > time to play 11 games in between. (The recent practice of
> > playing 12 games instead of 11 occurred because in a recent
> > year when Labor Day and Thanksgiving were 12 weeks and three
> > days apart, colleges scheduled an extra game, then kept on
> > scheduling 12 games even when the period between the two
> > holidays switched back to 11 weeks and three days.)
>
> It can't have been terribly recent, since it was FDR who changed
> Thanksgiving from "last Thursday in November" to "fourth Thursday in
> November" -- supposedly to increase the number of shopping days before
> Christmas.

No, he is correct. Labor Day and Thanksgiving can still be (2/7 times)
12 weeks 3 days apart.

Also, my proposal increases the 'Christmas shopping season' by one day
on average, and also makes it the same length every year.

Andrew Usher
From: Transfer Principle on
On Feb 22, 4:41 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 1:58 am, Transfer Principle <lwal...(a)lausd.net> wrote:
> > Notice that the current USA Labor Day (first Monday in
> > September) already occurs exactly 11 weeks and three days
> > before Usher Thanksgiving. As Usher points out later, this
> > is convenient for college football, which traditionally began
> > on Labor Day weekend and ended on Thanksgiving, with enough
> > time to play 11 games in between. (The recent practice of
> > playing 12 games instead of 11 occurred because in a recent
> > year when Labor Day and Thanksgiving were 12 weeks and three
> > days apart, colleges scheduled an extra game, then kept on
> > scheduling 12 games even when the period between the two
> > holidays switched back to 11 weeks and three days.)
> It can't have been terribly recent, since it was FDR who changed
> Thanksgiving from "last Thursday in November" to "fourth Thursday in
> November" -- supposedly to increase the number of shopping days before
> Christmas.

In this case, I wasn't referring to a change to Thanksgiving
itself (a la "Franksgiving"), but a change to the number of
weeks between Labor Day and Thanksgiving.

In particular, we had:
2001: Labor Day = September 3rd
Thanksgiving Day = November 22nd
dates in between = 11 weeks, 3 days

2002: Labor Day = September 2nd
Thanksgiving Day = November 28th
dates in between = 12 weeks, 3 days

2003: Labor Day = September 1st
Thanksgiving Day = November 27th
dates in between = 12 weeks, 3 days

2004: Labor Day = September 6th
Thanksgiving Day = November 25th
dates in between = 11 weeks, 3 days

So what happened was that up until 2001, college football
teams scheduled 11 games in the season, but then in 2002,
since there was an extra week between Labor Day and
Thanksgiving, some schools has 12 games instead. This
resulted in more teams becoming bowl-eligible (since it's
evidently easier to win six games when there are twelve
chances rather than eleven to win). The bowl schedule
expanded in 2003 in order to accommodate the extra teams
becoming bowl eligible. Then in 2004, some schools went
back to scheduling only 11 games. There were fewer teams
that were bowl eligible, and so bowls were cancelled. But
other schools continued to play 12 anyway.

Nowadays, 12-game seasons have become the norm (with a
possible 13th game in those conferences which have
conference championships). But there are still fewer
bowl games than there were in 2003, resulting in some
bowl-eligible teams (mostly 6-6 teams) not finding room
in any bowl to play. But had the Usher Thanksgiving Day
been implemented, Thanksgiving would have fallen on
November 21, 2002, and November 20, 2003, meaning that
those 12th games would never have been played. We'd
probably still have 11-game seasons nowadays, with fewer
bowl-eligible teams, and nearly enough spots for all of
the bowl-eligible (6-5 or better) teams.

An interesting exercise is to Google the phrase "quirk
in the calendar" -- most of the results discuss how the
differing number of weeks between certain holidays
affects sports, or even business. The Usher calendar
reform (as well as most other calendar reforms) seek to
eliminate such quirks.
From: Robert Bannister on
Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <%GIfn.45264$lB6.23443(a)newsfe16.ams2>, "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> writes:
>> "R H Draney" <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message news:hlni3r01mb3(a)drn.newsguy.com...
>>> Robert Bannister filted:
>>>> Androcles wrote:
>
>>>>> The USA doesn't have a football schedule. The rest of the world plays
>>>>> football, the USA calls that soccer and then plays it's own version of
>>>>> parochial handball.
>>> One expects such a reaction from someone who inserts an apostrophe into
>>> possessive "its"....
>> Oops... I forgot that is one possessive word that doesn't have an apostophe.
>
> mine, yours, his, hers, its,ours, theirs.
>
> Not one possessive pronoun has an apostrophe.
>

One's

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Rob Bannister
From: Andrew Usher on
Joachim Pense wrote:

> >>>> But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real programs. 0
> >>>> = Sunday.
> >>>
> >>> Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its
> >>> family. And those who chose to imitate it.
> >>
> >> But not in the first language I used when working for a living (COBOL).
> >>
> > Nor FORTRAN DO statements. Most people start at 1. You can also
> > write an off-by-1 bug in loops depending on whether you start the loop
> > with 0 or 1.
>
> Neither Pascal.

Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way
that I can't imagine why anyone would make the other choice.

Andrew Usher