From: Brian M. Scott on
On 19 Feb 2010 01:06:25 -0800, R H Draney
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> James Hogg filted:

>>Andrew Usher wrote:

>>> Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of
>>> the calendar, and attempting in passing to create a
>>> more perfect Church calendar, I say the following:

[...]

>> Give the sound of your name, I suppose you would also
>> renumber the years, with year 1 in what is now 4004 BC.

> I'm taking a survey...how many were thinking something
> along the same lines?...

I was.

[...]

Brian
From: Jonathan Morton on
"Yusuf B Gursey" <ybg(a)theworld.com> wrote in message
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>Easter is a moveable feast, meaning it is not fixed in relation to the
>civil calendar. The First Council of Nicaea (325) established the date
>of Easter as the first Sunday after the full moon (the Paschal Full
>Moon) following the vernal equinox.[3] Ecclesiastically, the equinox
>is reckoned to be on March 21 (regardless of the astronomically
>correct date), and the "Full Moon" is not necessarily the
>astronomically correct date. The date of Easter therefore varies
>between March 22 and April 25.

It does, but at present (certainly until 2199, at which point we move to a
new table) it is not capable of falling on 22 March. Of course we had 23
March in 2008 and there's a 24 April coming up next year.

Regards

Jonathan


From: Jonathan Morton on
"Yusuf B Gursey" <ybg(a)theworld.com> wrote in message
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>Easter is a moveable feast, meaning it is not fixed in relation to the
>civil calendar. The First Council of Nicaea (325) established the date
>of Easter as the first Sunday after the full moon (the Paschal Full
>Moon) following the vernal equinox.[3] Ecclesiastically, the equinox
>is reckoned to be on March 21 (regardless of the astronomically
>correct date), and the "Full Moon" is not necessarily the
>astronomically correct date. The date of Easter therefore varies
>between March 22 and April 25.

It does, but at present (certainly until 2199, at which point we move to a
new table) it is not capable of falling on 22 March. Of course we had 23
March in 2008 and there's a 24 April coming up next year.

Regards

Jonathan



From: Brian M. Scott on
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:38:08 +0000, Ant�nio Marques
<antonioprm(a)sapo.pt> wrote in
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[...]

> Chocolate bunnies and eggs, you can put them everywhere
> you like, but that's not Easter.

For me, growing up, that was exactly Easter. It was a minor
holiday, along with Thanksgiving and Hallowe'en; the major
holiday was Christmas.

Brian
From: Cheryl on
Andrew Usher wrote:
> On Feb 19, 3:07 pm, Ant�nio Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote:
>
>>>> The reason I fix Christmas to a Sunday has been my observation that
>>>> arranging a family Christmas is substantially more convenient when it
>>>> falls on a weekend than in the middle of the week. Given that Christmas
>>>> is the most important holiday in the year, should we not all get at
>>>> least a 3-day weekend, which we have for lesser holidays?
>>> Less than around 30% of the world population cares about Christmas or
>>> Easter or think that "Christmas is the most important holiday in the
>>> year".
>> Well, but for those who don't it doesn't really matter one way or the other
>> what day Christmas and Easter Sunday are, does it? So what relevance do they
>> have for you to bring them along? Or was it just the desire to sound clever?
>
> Right, and I figure that my calendar would be no worse than the
> present for those that don't.
>
> Indeed, I considered this problem purely as a logical one; as I've
> stated, I don't consider myself Christian, I adopted the Church
> calendar as a base only because it makes the problem more interesting.
>
> I didn't consider my calendar complete until I worked out my new leap
> year rule (Rule #3) - it not only ensures that both Christmas and
> Easter are within 7-day periods despite being a constant distance from
> each other and having leap day in between, it simultaneously causes
> there to be exactly 52 Sundays in every year if you take out Nov. 1
> which is All Saints' day; this immediately allows te to draw up a
> permanent list of the Sundays in the year with their traditional
> Christian designations, and then follow the perpetual calendar.
>
> And I moved the start of the week numbering to August from Nov. 1 so
> that the academic year and the US football season would be on the
> fixed schedule, and I think there can be no objection to that. The
> holidays I consider are Christmas and Easter (and of course the Church
> festivals fixed to them, but hardly anyone cares anymore), and US
> Thanksgiving - but other civil holidays could easily be fixed to the
> same if they are now observed on a Monday, say, or otherwise not fixed
> to a particular date.
>
> Andrew Usher

Which academic year are you considering? I can think of several
variations - K-12 vs universities and colleges, to begin with, and there
are even variations among the K-12 school years in different
jurisdictions - and even within the same one, in places where some
schools have a year-round schedule.

I will confess to being totally indifferent to the US football schedule.
In fact, I couldn't tell you what it is now, except for a vague
impression that it occurs in the fall, or possibly winter.

--
Cheryl