From: Andre Da Costa [Extended64] on
I know that the disk packaging for Volume License and Retail disk are
different. The XP Pro x86 disk is a combination of Green sticker with
hologram and the XP Pro x64 disk is a cream colored sticker with hologram.
It clearly says Volume License on it too.
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"PaulT" <PaulT(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6780C043-0BB7-4E87-B9B0-200FEC910AD6(a)microsoft.com...
> http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=342 that's how I know. This is
> just
> the holographic CD , the COA remains OEM hence it not working.
>
> "Vanguard" wrote:
>>
>> What do you actually see that infers to you that the copy you got is for
>> a volume licensed version? "Corporate" versions are pirated versions.
>> The seller buys a volume license and then slices up the licenses by
>> making copies (sometimes very good copies) to resell but that is
>> illegal.


From: Tony Sperling on
Yes, this conforms with my understanding, but the US version is not sold
outside the NA continent, I believe. It is the UK version that is the
standard international product. Or so it is labeled here.

Usually, this should not be any problem, but if you loose your setup it is
frequently tricky when typing passwords (since you cannot see what you are
typing) and drive designations to system commands, since punctuation like
underscores and slashes ( I need to use my group key to get to that one )
are a total shambles when you check different keyboard lay-outs. I had an
original IBM keyboard for many years, but it disappeared when moving to a
new appartment ( the only item that went missing, naturally! ) and I've very
nearly cried myself to sleep ever since. Why doesn't anybody build a decent
keyboard anymore?

[sigh. . .]

Tony. . .


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:ufsEZk3dGHA.1320(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I install to English-Canadian, but the keyboard is still US. So I won't
>ever hit a problem with a standard US version. The UK keyboard is a bit
>different, though and might be the source.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> Thanks, Charlie.
>>
>> Yes, sitting in Denmark, I have seen/heard of this before, although
>> personally I stick with the International versions for all my
>> installations, and the Danish keybord doesn't remap the standard keys, so
>> it's been a while.
>>
>> The German keyboard, conversely, remaps the 'z' and the 'x' (if I am not
>> mistaken) this would be enough to create havoc.
>>
>> It is wise to remember, although given enough time to forget, we usually
>> will.
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:Oc5nY2ydGHA.3556(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Oh, good thought.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>
>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>> Just a hunch - what language versions are you having? I am thinking of
>>>> keyboard incompatibilities in the early stages. Is your keyboard the
>>>> same language as the Windows version, at this point of the
>>>> installation?
>>>>
>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PaulT" <PaulT(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8B06D2A2-563F-42DB-94AC-314F40D71173(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hi, yes I trippled checked, got the wife to check etc, I've searched
>>>>> the internet and saw the G-6, Q-O's etc, however it's oddball that it
>>>>> just doesnt
>>>>> say invalid key no matter what I put, it's always invalid Id, the
>>>>> hologram cd
>>>>> says OEM to be supplied with new computers only, as does the front of
>>>>> the
>>>>> dvd
>>>>> style casing, and the COA also says windows professional x64 OEM so :)
>>>>> I've
>>>>> mailed the shop I got it from but won't be Monday before I hear back
>>>>> so, I think I'm Mr Unlucky or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul;
>>>>>> Are you using the Product Key that came with that CD?
>>>>>> There are different types of each and they are not compatible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look very closely, S-5, O-0. G-6 and others look alike.
>>>>>> Have someone else try, sometimes another set of eyes and fingers can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise contact the seller.
>
>


From: "Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" on
Hello Paul,
If you send me the key I can attempt to check to see if it for an X64 OEM
install or not.
Remove the online from email address.
Charlie can vouch that I am with Microsoft.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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<Hi, Ok I'll do that, although I'm not sure what the supplier can do (apart
<from send me another) as it was shrink wrapped so COA/CD were together.
<
<Although it seems no matter what I put in for the product key it will give
<the same error.
<
<"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
<
<> You need to go to the source of your copy of XP x64 and the new PC.
They'll
<> be able to make sure that they've given you both the right media and the
<> right key for your product.
<>
<> There are different product ID's for different versions of the product,
and
<> if the two aren't matched, you'll get this message.
<
<

From: Charlie Russel - MVP on
Yup, he really is. Take advantage of the offer - Darrell has been quite
helpful to all of us here. I was hoping he'd look in and spot this thread,
since he's the only regular who has access to actually checking this.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" wrote:
> Hello Paul,
> If you send me the key I can attempt to check to see if it for an X64 OEM
> install or not.
> Remove the online from email address.
> Charlie can vouch that I am with Microsoft.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
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> <thread-index: AcZ2zLVZW4kM6vKjQAGojV9p/+VWMw==
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> <
> <Hi, Ok I'll do that, although I'm not sure what the supplier can do
> (apart <from send me another) as it was shrink wrapped so COA/CD were
> together. <
> <Although it seems no matter what I put in for the product key it will
> give <the same error.
> <
> <"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
> <
> <> You need to go to the source of your copy of XP x64 and the new PC.
> They'll
> <> be able to make sure that they've given you both the right media and
> the <> right key for your product.
> <>
> <> There are different product ID's for different versions of the product,
> and
> <> if the two aren't matched, you'll get this message.
> <
> <


From: Charlie Russel - MVP on
There are decent keyboards (US only, I'm afraid). They are clones of the
Northgate keyboard I used 15 years ago, and that I still use.
http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/menu.htm - they're seriously
overpriced, but no one makes a better keyboard. I've still got two working
Northgate OmniKey 102's left, but my others have all been replaced by Avant
Stellar keyboards as the Northgates have slowly died. Givent that they're
>15 years old, I am on them every day, and I'm a hard typist, that speaks
volumes for their longevity. And the feel? Nothing even close, except those
old IBMs. These weigh in at about the same weight as well - over 2.2 Kg.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

Tony Sperling wrote:
> Yes, this conforms with my understanding, but the US version is not sold
> outside the NA continent, I believe. It is the UK version that is the
> standard international product. Or so it is labeled here.
>
> Usually, this should not be any problem, but if you loose your setup it is
> frequently tricky when typing passwords (since you cannot see what you are
> typing) and drive designations to system commands, since punctuation like
> underscores and slashes ( I need to use my group key to get to that one )
> are a total shambles when you check different keyboard lay-outs. I had an
> original IBM keyboard for many years, but it disappeared when moving to a
> new appartment ( the only item that went missing, naturally! ) and I've
> very nearly cried myself to sleep ever since. Why doesn't anybody build a
> decent keyboard anymore?
>
> [sigh. . .]
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:ufsEZk3dGHA.1320(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I install to English-Canadian, but the keyboard is still US. So I won't
>> ever hit a problem with a standard US version. The UK keyboard is a bit
>> different, though and might be the source.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>> Thanks, Charlie.
>>>
>>> Yes, sitting in Denmark, I have seen/heard of this before, although
>>> personally I stick with the International versions for all my
>>> installations, and the Danish keybord doesn't remap the standard keys,
>>> so it's been a while.
>>>
>>> The German keyboard, conversely, remaps the 'z' and the 'x' (if I am not
>>> mistaken) this would be enough to create havoc.
>>>
>>> It is wise to remember, although given enough time to forget, we usually
>>> will.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:Oc5nY2ydGHA.3556(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Oh, good thought.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>>> Just a hunch - what language versions are you having? I am thinking of
>>>>> keyboard incompatibilities in the early stages. Is your keyboard the
>>>>> same language as the Windows version, at this point of the
>>>>> installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "PaulT" <PaulT(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8B06D2A2-563F-42DB-94AC-314F40D71173(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hi, yes I trippled checked, got the wife to check etc, I've searched
>>>>>> the internet and saw the G-6, Q-O's etc, however it's oddball that it
>>>>>> just doesnt
>>>>>> say invalid key no matter what I put, it's always invalid Id, the
>>>>>> hologram cd
>>>>>> says OEM to be supplied with new computers only, as does the front of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dvd
>>>>>> style casing, and the COA also says windows professional x64 OEM so
>>>>>> :) I've
>>>>>> mailed the shop I got it from but won't be Monday before I hear back
>>>>>> so, I think I'm Mr Unlucky or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul;
>>>>>>> Are you using the Product Key that came with that CD?
>>>>>>> There are different types of each and they are not compatible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look very closely, S-5, O-0. G-6 and others look alike.
>>>>>>> Have someone else try, sometimes another set of eyes and fingers can
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise contact the seller.


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