There is just *one* kind of mass!!
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From: Inertial on 7 Jan 2010 05:08 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:17215745-325c-4342-9499-ae5144e0077a(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 7, 10:06 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:07afe89f-a0f8-4589-9923-edb28b21c4f1(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 4:40 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:5d80182c-92a5-4ce6-8ec2-25f3f0c9c17c(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' >> >> of >> >> length to width? >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving >> >> observer a >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of >> >> reference? >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? >> >> That >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). >> >> > -------------------- >> > imbecile parrot leech psychopath >> >> Here we go .. Porat flying off the handle for no reason yet again >> >> > wait until PD will answer!! >> >> Why .. I asked YOU the question. >> >> > the question was specifically to him >> >> What question? You posed a general question here, and specifically to >> both >> him and me about whether there is one kind of mass .. you thread title is >> about one kind of mass. By posting it in a public newsgroup you are >> asking >> everyone who reads it to answer and comment. >> >> > so a civilized emotionally balanced human being >> >> That's certainly not you >> >> > would wait patiently until the person who was asked >> > will answer >> >> I don't need to wait .. this is not a private conversation. >> >> > PD does not need your idiotic help >> >> I wasn't 'helping' him ,I was asking YOU a question >> >> If you want a private conversation with him .. email him >> >> > (if he will *not* answer it will be an answer as well !! >> >> > and i will go further with it without him >> > and without you !!!) >> >> I'm sure you would .. you don't need inconvenient things like rational >> thought, consistent arguments, experimental evidence and facts about >> physics >> ( the things that we point out to you) to get in your way. >> >> > and believe it or not (idiot blockhead )- >> > there is a lot to go on with it !!! >> >> So .. to get on with it .. can you and will you answer my questions: >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' of >> length to width? >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving observer a >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of >> reference? >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? >> That >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). > > ----------------- > next ..... So .. you can't answer those questions. I thought not. Clearly you do not want to be taken seriously.
From: Y.Porat on 7 Jan 2010 06:34 On Jan 7, 12:08 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:17215745-325c-4342-9499-ae5144e0077a(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Jan 7, 10:06 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:07afe89f-a0f8-4589-9923-edb28b21c4f1(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > On Jan 7, 4:40 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:5d80182c-92a5-4ce6-8ec2-25f3f0c9c17c(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. > > >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' > >> >> of > >> >> length to width? > > >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving > >> >> observer a > >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a > >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of > >> >> reference? > > >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? > >> >> That > >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). > > >> > -------------------- > >> > imbecile parrot leech psychopath > > >> Here we go .. Porat flying off the handle for no reason yet again > > >> > wait until PD will answer!! > > >> Why .. I asked YOU the question. > > >> > the question was specifically to him > > >> What question? You posed a general question here, and specifically to > >> both > >> him and me about whether there is one kind of mass .. you thread title is > >> about one kind of mass. By posting it in a public newsgroup you are > >> asking > >> everyone who reads it to answer and comment. > > >> > so a civilized emotionally balanced human being > > >> That's certainly not you > > >> > would wait patiently until the person who was asked > >> > will answer > > >> I don't need to wait .. this is not a private conversation. > > >> > PD does not need your idiotic help > > >> I wasn't 'helping' him ,I was asking YOU a question > > >> If you want a private conversation with him .. email him > > >> > (if he will *not* answer it will be an answer as well !! > > >> > and i will go further with it without him > >> > and without you !!!) > > >> I'm sure you would .. you don't need inconvenient things like rational > >> thought, consistent arguments, experimental evidence and facts about > >> physics > >> ( the things that we point out to you) to get in your way. > > >> > and believe it or not (idiot blockhead )- > >> > there is a lot to go on with it !!! > > >> So .. to get on with it .. can you and will you answer my questions: > > >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. > > >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' of > >> length to width? > > >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving observer a > >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a > >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of > >> reference? > > >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? > >> That > >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). > > > ----------------- > > next ..... > > So .. you can't answer those questions. I thought not. Clearly you do not > want to be taken seriously. ----------------------- next -----------------------
From: Inertial on 7 Jan 2010 06:39 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e0faad1c-4e86-4d79-8dd2-352b0d930419(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 7, 12:08 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:17215745-325c-4342-9499-ae5144e0077a(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 10:06 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:07afe89f-a0f8-4589-9923-edb28b21c4f1(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 4:40 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >>news:5d80182c-92a5-4ce6-8ec2-25f3f0c9c17c(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different >> >> >> 'kind' >> >> >> of >> >> >> length to width? >> >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving >> >> >> observer a >> >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it >> >> >> a >> >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of >> >> >> reference? >> >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of >> >> >> length? >> >> >> That >> >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). >> >> >> > -------------------- >> >> > imbecile parrot leech psychopath >> >> >> Here we go .. Porat flying off the handle for no reason yet again >> >> >> > wait until PD will answer!! >> >> >> Why .. I asked YOU the question. >> >> >> > the question was specifically to him >> >> >> What question? You posed a general question here, and specifically to >> >> both >> >> him and me about whether there is one kind of mass .. you thread title >> >> is >> >> about one kind of mass. By posting it in a public newsgroup you are >> >> asking >> >> everyone who reads it to answer and comment. >> >> >> > so a civilized emotionally balanced human being >> >> >> That's certainly not you >> >> >> > would wait patiently until the person who was asked >> >> > will answer >> >> >> I don't need to wait .. this is not a private conversation. >> >> >> > PD does not need your idiotic help >> >> >> I wasn't 'helping' him ,I was asking YOU a question >> >> >> If you want a private conversation with him .. email him >> >> >> > (if he will *not* answer it will be an answer as well !! >> >> >> > and i will go further with it without him >> >> > and without you !!!) >> >> >> I'm sure you would .. you don't need inconvenient things like rational >> >> thought, consistent arguments, experimental evidence and facts about >> >> physics >> >> ( the things that we point out to you) to get in your way. >> >> >> > and believe it or not (idiot blockhead )- >> >> > there is a lot to go on with it !!! >> >> >> So .. to get on with it .. can you and will you answer my questions: >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' >> >> of >> >> length to width? >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving >> >> observer a >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of >> >> reference? >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? >> >> That >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). >> >> > ----------------- >> > next ..... >> >> So .. you can't answer those questions. I thought not. Clearly you do >> not >> want to be taken seriously. > > ----------------------- > next What .. you want someone else to answer for you? Or are you just incapable of defining what 'one kind of mass' actually means?
From: Y.Porat on 7 Jan 2010 10:09 On Jan 7, 1:39 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:e0faad1c-4e86-4d79-8dd2-352b0d930419(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Jan 7, 12:08 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:17215745-325c-4342-9499-ae5144e0077a(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > On Jan 7, 10:06 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:07afe89f-a0f8-4589-9923-edb28b21c4f1(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> > On Jan 7, 4:40 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >> >>news:5d80182c-92a5-4ce6-8ec2-25f3f0c9c17c(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups..com... > > >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. > > >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different > >> >> >> 'kind' > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> length to width? > > >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving > >> >> >> observer a > >> >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of > >> >> >> reference? > > >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of > >> >> >> length? > >> >> >> That > >> >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). > > >> >> > -------------------- > >> >> > imbecile parrot leech psychopath > > >> >> Here we go .. Porat flying off the handle for no reason yet again > > >> >> > wait until PD will answer!! > > >> >> Why .. I asked YOU the question. > > >> >> > the question was specifically to him > > >> >> What question? You posed a general question here, and specifically to > >> >> both > >> >> him and me about whether there is one kind of mass .. you thread title > >> >> is > >> >> about one kind of mass. By posting it in a public newsgroup you are > >> >> asking > >> >> everyone who reads it to answer and comment. > > >> >> > so a civilized emotionally balanced human being > > >> >> That's certainly not you > > >> >> > would wait patiently until the person who was asked > >> >> > will answer > > >> >> I don't need to wait .. this is not a private conversation. > > >> >> > PD does not need your idiotic help > > >> >> I wasn't 'helping' him ,I was asking YOU a question > > >> >> If you want a private conversation with him .. email him > > >> >> > (if he will *not* answer it will be an answer as well !! > > >> >> > and i will go further with it without him > >> >> > and without you !!!) > > >> >> I'm sure you would .. you don't need inconvenient things like rational > >> >> thought, consistent arguments, experimental evidence and facts about > >> >> physics > >> >> ( the things that we point out to you) to get in your way. > > >> >> > and believe it or not (idiot blockhead )- > >> >> > there is a lot to go on with it !!! > > >> >> So .. to get on with it .. can you and will you answer my questions: > > >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. > > >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' > >> >> of > >> >> length to width? > > >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving > >> >> observer a > >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a > >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of > >> >> reference? > > >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? > >> >> That > >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). > > >> > ----------------- > >> > next ..... > > >> So .. you can't answer those questions. I thought not. Clearly you do > >> not > >> want to be taken seriously. > > > ----------------------- > > next > > What .. you want someone else to answer for you? Or are you just incapable > of defining what 'one kind of mass' actually means? --------------------- next Y.Porat ---------------------
From: Inertial on 7 Jan 2010 17:32
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cc517da8-4049-405b-8069-97264e36a77e(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 7, 1:39 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e0faad1c-4e86-4d79-8dd2-352b0d930419(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 12:08 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:17215745-325c-4342-9499-ae5144e0077a(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 10:06 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >>news:07afe89f-a0f8-4589-9923-edb28b21c4f1(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Jan 7, 4:40 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >>news:5d80182c-92a5-4ce6-8ec2-25f3f0c9c17c(a)j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different >> >> >> >> 'kind' >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> length to width? >> >> >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving >> >> >> >> observer a >> >> >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> reference? >> >> >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of >> >> >> >> length? >> >> >> >> That >> >> >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). >> >> >> >> > -------------------- >> >> >> > imbecile parrot leech psychopath >> >> >> >> Here we go .. Porat flying off the handle for no reason yet again >> >> >> >> > wait until PD will answer!! >> >> >> >> Why .. I asked YOU the question. >> >> >> >> > the question was specifically to him >> >> >> >> What question? You posed a general question here, and specifically >> >> >> to >> >> >> both >> >> >> him and me about whether there is one kind of mass .. you thread >> >> >> title >> >> >> is >> >> >> about one kind of mass. By posting it in a public newsgroup you >> >> >> are >> >> >> asking >> >> >> everyone who reads it to answer and comment. >> >> >> >> > so a civilized emotionally balanced human being >> >> >> >> That's certainly not you >> >> >> >> > would wait patiently until the person who was asked >> >> >> > will answer >> >> >> >> I don't need to wait .. this is not a private conversation. >> >> >> >> > PD does not need your idiotic help >> >> >> >> I wasn't 'helping' him ,I was asking YOU a question >> >> >> >> If you want a private conversation with him .. email him >> >> >> >> > (if he will *not* answer it will be an answer as well !! >> >> >> >> > and i will go further with it without him >> >> >> > and without you !!!) >> >> >> >> I'm sure you would .. you don't need inconvenient things like >> >> >> rational >> >> >> thought, consistent arguments, experimental evidence and facts >> >> >> about >> >> >> physics >> >> >> ( the things that we point out to you) to get in your way. >> >> >> >> > and believe it or not (idiot blockhead )- >> >> >> > there is a lot to go on with it !!! >> >> >> >> So .. to get on with it .. can you and will you answer my >> >> >> questions: >> >> >> >> Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. >> >> >> >> Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different >> >> >> 'kind' >> >> >> of >> >> >> length to width? >> >> >> >> Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving >> >> >> observer a >> >> >> different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it >> >> >> a >> >> >> different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of >> >> >> reference? >> >> >> >> Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of >> >> >> length? >> >> >> That >> >> >> length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). >> >> >> > ----------------- >> >> > next ..... >> >> >> So .. you can't answer those questions. I thought not. Clearly you >> >> do >> >> not >> >> want to be taken seriously. >> >> > ----------------------- >> > next >> >> What .. you want someone else to answer for you? Or are you just >> incapable >> of defining what 'one kind of mass' actually means? > > --------------------- > next How do you expect anyone to discuss whether there is one kind of mass, when you cannot even say what you mean by that? Stop runnning away and act like an honest man with integrity instead. Define what you mean by a "kind" of mass. Is there more than one 'kind' of length? Is height a different 'kind' of length to width? Is the measured contracted length (in SR) of a rod by a moving observer a different 'kind' of length to the rest length of the rod? Or is it a different value for the same thing, due to differences in frame of reference? Is the proper interval length of a rod a different 'kind' of length? That length is invariant (ie the same in all frames of reference). |