There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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From: NoEinstein on 22 Apr 2010 22:15 On Apr 22, 6:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear mpc755: Other than the FACT that matter doesn't displace ether, you make several statements that are true. Give up that "displacement" idea of yoursit won't hold water (PUN intended!). NE > > On Apr 22, 6:31 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > On Apr 22, 4:01 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 22, 3:38 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 22, 4:27 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear Dunce: "Orbits" aren't physical constructs! NE > > > > What? The orbit of the Earth around the Sun isn't physical, John? > > > > Or when you say "physical constructs" are you thinking man-made > > > structures, like sheds and sports arenas? > > > the funniest thing about this conversation is the > > topics title! > > > r.y > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > Aether is displaced by matter. > Displacements creates pressure. > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > Aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive an > object is per volume the less aether it contains, the more aether is > displaced. The more aether displaced the greater the pressure exerted > by the aether displaced by the matter. > > The 'push' in the title is the pressure exerted by the aether towards > the matter. > > Gravity is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: NoEinstein on 22 Apr 2010 22:18 On Apr 22, 6:48 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > Dear Raymond: Thankfully, for TRUE Science, it isn't necessary that you... buy... anything. But science progress will be swifter if you will keep out of the way! NoEinstein > > On Apr 22, 5:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 22, 6:31 pm, Raymond Yohros wrote: > > > the funniest thing about this conversation is the > > > topics title! > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > Displacements creates pressure. > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > > Aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive an > > object is per volume the less aether it contains, the more aether is > > displaced. The more aether displaced the greater the pressure exerted > > by the aether displaced by the matter. > > > The 'push' in the title is the pressure exerted by the aether towards > > the matter. > > > Gravity is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > i think i could understand better what you say without > that aether word. > im sorry. > i just dont buy it! > > r.y- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: NoEinstein on 22 Apr 2010 22:27 On Apr 22, 7:25 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear spudnik: You are a better... rambler, than you are a science-is- in-the-details guy. But I welcome your literary ideas. NE > > as the only known (to me) student of Bucky, > I say, he was Are Buckafka Fullofit on pi ... but, dood, > do you know the surfer's value?... it's not in _Synergetics_:http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/synergetics.html > > > Bucky Fuller explained that nature doesn't think pi is 3.1416... > > thus: > this reminds me of the old Ultraviolet Catastrophe, > when you take Hubble's opinion about the redshift, > being directly related to speeding-away ... and > there is no antilight; only antimatter. > what lies within the visible universe is still very, > very hard to elaborate, at very high redshifts, but > there are plenty of goofy theories. > > thus: > unfortuantely for Olber, almost all of Universe is red- > shifted out of visible spectra, including most blue- > shifters, due supposedly to Hubble's being hounded > into saying that the shift is "Dopplerian." > > thus: > the main, supposedly unsolved anomaly is that > the winters & nights are "warmer" than the days and > summers. now, how on Earth could that, be? > > the problem is that, although the GCMs are frought > with nearly irreducible uncertainties re clouds & vapor, > virtually all of the changes that effect these are made > by men on land; whereas the hydro cycle at sea is some- > what more of a constant. that's why, > they call it, the Anthropocene (viz, > the typical passive solar take on the urban heat islands, and > the UNIPCC's supposed fudge-factor to cover them, > which never seems to come-up in the actual articles > in the actual journals). > > thus: > R. Bucky Fuller was a funny guy, and your spiel about orbit > is a perfect counter to his blather about pi. on the other hand, > the vast majority of earth scientists don't know spherical trig., > which Bucky did, in the command of a naval vessel, > just before radio came in (in their GCMs etc., > the poles are singularities, as in a Mercator projection ... but > the space-science folks are *all* about the poles .-) > see color plates one & two in _Synergetics_.http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/synergetics.html > > thus: > space-time is merely ordinary phase-space, properly seen, > a la Lanczos' use of quaternions -- Death to the lightcone; > long-live the lightcone-heads! > so, are biquaternions non-associative, like octonions? > poor Minkowski, made his bizzare slogan about time *qua* the > graphed *function* > on a piece of paper, and then he died, and that ain't electronics > *or* > rocketscience (like Bucky saith, It is *all* rocketscience .-) > the great geometer Minkowski, alas, puts his pants on, > one lightcone at a time, like any one else. > > --No Cap and Trade Bailout for Wall Street and The City! > to whom it concerns; > as I comprehend it, after briefly speaking with Waxman at UCLA, > his bill does the same as his '91 cap&trade bill under HW, > on SO2 and NOx (viz, acid rain); that is, it is just a nostrum > of "frere trade." if Dubya had known that Kyoto was just > another cap&trade "free trade" nostrum, he'd have signed it, since > he has been thoroughly indoctrinated in the MBA school > on "British Liberal Free Trade" (cotton, sugar & slavery, > why the British organized and supported Secession > with ships & materiel) -- what the Revolution was about -- not just, > Taxation without representation, a la the Tea Party effetes and > the Encyclopedia Brittaninca! > > Waxman perhaps has been too long on the job; > when I spoke to him at the Faculty Center, he seemed to be on drugs, > a marked difference form when I saw him in P.Palisades. anyway, > as I asked him, Why can't we just have a very small Carbon Tax, > instead of letting the arbitrageurs run the bull & bear hijinx? > > as they say, the bears make money, the bulls make money, and > the hogs always get slaughtered. > none of the (two) experts, I have read or asked, > thought that a tax wouldn't work as well, just that > it was somehow politically impossible. > --sooner,bri
From: NoEinstein on 22 Apr 2010 22:26 On Apr 22, 7:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 22, 6:48 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 5:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 22, 6:31 pm, Raymond Yohros wrote: > > > > the funniest thing about this conversation is the > > > > topics title! > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > > Displacements creates pressure. > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > > > Aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive an > > > object is per volume the less aether it contains, the more aether is > > > displaced. The more aether displaced the greater the pressure exerted > > > by the aether displaced by the matter. > > > > The 'push' in the title is the pressure exerted by the aether towards > > > the matter. > > > > Gravity is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > > i think i could understand better what you say without > > that aether word. > > im sorry. > > i just dont buy it! > > > r.y > > I originally called the theory Spacial Displacement. The spelling of > Spacial was intentional to demonstrate it was space which was > displaced by matter. The issue with 'Spacial' is it is not three > dimensional space which is being displaced. It is the 'stuff' of > space. It is the material of space which is being displaced by the > matter. That is the reason I modified the name from Spacial > Displacement to Aether Displacement. > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" - > Albert Einstein > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > matter is the aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear mpc755: The word "spacial" is correctly spelled: spatial. But I agree with yours... in theory, while I let my spell-checker do the changes. NE
From: mpc755 on 22 Apr 2010 22:32
On Apr 22, 10:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 22, 6:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: Other than the FACT that matter doesn't displace ether, > you make several statements that are true. Give up that > "displacement" idea of yoursit won't hold water (PUN intended!). > NE > http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/ Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899. "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an aether displacement to the electric current, aether vortices to the atoms; if we continue these suppositions, we arrive at what may be one of the grandest generalizations of modern science, namely that all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations of the various modes of motion of one all-pervading (substance), the aether. The day seems not to distant when the converging lines from many apparently remote regions of thought will meet on some common ground. Then the nature of the atom and the forces called into play in their chemical union, the interactions between these atoms and the non- differentiated aether as manifested in the phenomena of light and electricity , the structure of the molecule, the explanation of cohesion, elasticity and gravitation, all of these will be marshaled into a single compact and consistent body of scientific knowledge." I would modify the statement to read: "all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations of the various states of one all-pervading (substance), the aether." http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html Albert Einstein: "the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" I would modify the statement to read: The state of the aether as determined by the connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. |