From: kenseto on 12 Nov 2009 10:36 There is no time dilation. 1. Clocks in different frames runs at different rates. 2. A clock second does not represent the same duration (absolute time content) in different frames. In other words a clock second is not a universal interval of time in different frames. There is no physical length contraction. 1. The physical length of a meter stick remains that same in all frames. 2. The observer assumes that the light path length of his meter stick is the physical length of his meter stick and then he uses this assumption and the SR equations to predict the light path length of a moving meter stick is contractioned by a factor of 1/gamma. IRT is a new theory of relativity. It includes the above concept for time and length. A description of IRT is available in the following link: http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf Ken Seto
From: PD on 12 Nov 2009 11:00 On Nov 12, 9:36 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > There is no time dilation. > 1. Clocks in different frames runs at different rates. That's what time dilation MEANS. > 2. A clock second does not represent the same duration (absolute time > content) in different frames. In other words a clock second is not a > universal interval of time in different frames. It isn't required that the clock second represent the same duration in different frames. And you confuse "universal" with "absolute". > > There is no physical length contraction. > 1. The physical length of a meter stick remains that same in all > frames. Not according to *measurement*. > 2. The observer assumes that the light path length of his meter stick > is the physical length of his meter stick and then he uses this > assumption and the SR equations to predict the light path length of a > moving meter stick is contractioned by a factor of 1/gamma. Nowhere is there *measurement* in this statement. Length contraction is (indirectly) *measured*. > > IRT is a new theory of relativity. It includes the above concept for > time and length. A description of IRT is available in the following > link:http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > Ken Seto
From: eric gisse on 12 Nov 2009 13:09 kenseto wrote: > There is no time dilation. > 1. Clocks in different frames runs at different rates. We call that 'time dilation'. [snip rest of spew]
From: Sam Wormley on 12 Nov 2009 13:23 kenseto wrote: > There is no time dilation. > 1. Clocks in different frames runs at different rates. That IS time dilation! General relativity is a fruitful tool to predict time dilation agreeing with observations.
From: BURT on 12 Nov 2009 14:41
On Nov 12, 7:36 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > There is no time dilation. > 1. Clocks in different frames runs at different rates. > 2. A clock second does not represent the same duration (absolute time > content) in different frames. In other words a clock second is not a > universal interval of time in different frames. > > There is no physical length contraction. > 1. The physical length of a meter stick remains that same in all > frames. > 2. The observer assumes that the light path length of his meter stick > is the physical length of his meter stick and then he uses this > assumption and the SR equations to predict the light path length of a > moving meter stick is contractioned by a factor of 1/gamma. > > IRT is a new theory of relativity. It includes the above concept for > time and length. A description of IRT is available in the following > link:http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > Ken Seto Time aether does slow. But energy doesn't contract. There are no flatened forms. MItch Raemsch |