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From: Bruce on 5 Jul 2010 03:37 On 5 Jul 2010 04:17:31 GMT, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 2010-07-05, nospam wrote: >> In article <89d22fF13gU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Chris F.A. Johnson >><cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's not OK for them either; I will not use anything from either >>> company. >> >> your loss. by doing so, you give up a significant amount of extremely >> useful software, some of which has no replacement. > > There is nothing I need or want that I cannot get for my GNU/Linux > system. You mean there's a mobile version that runs on cell phones?
From: Ray Fischer on 5 Jul 2010 03:54 Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 5 Jul 2010 04:17:31 GMT, "Chris F.A. Johnson" ><cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>On 2010-07-05, nospam wrote: >>> In article <89d22fF13gU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Chris F.A. Johnson >>><cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's not OK for them either; I will not use anything from either >>>> company. >>> >>> your loss. by doing so, you give up a significant amount of extremely >>> useful software, some of which has no replacement. >> >> There is nothing I need or want that I cannot get for my GNU/Linux >> system. > >You mean there's a mobile version that runs on cell phones? Now there's an interesting idea. Certainly many cell phones today have the capability to run Linux. Personally I would find it a total crackup to fire up a C shell on a cell phone. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: nospam on 5 Jul 2010 04:27 In article <4c318fd1$0$1590$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Now there's an interesting idea. Certainly many cell phones today > have the capability to run Linux. Personally I would find it a total > crackup to fire up a C shell on a cell phone. the iphone runs os x and you can invoke a shell as well as ssh into it if you jailbreak it. some users have installed vim, gcc, gdb and even apache on the phone itself. android is based on linux but the apps are java.
From: Ofnuts on 5 Jul 2010 04:28 On 05/07/2010 09:54, Ray Fischer wrote: > Bruce<docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 5 Jul 2010 04:17:31 GMT, "Chris F.A. Johnson" >> <cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2010-07-05, nospam wrote: >>>> In article<89d22fF13gU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Chris F.A. Johnson >>>> <cfajohnson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's not OK for them either; I will not use anything from either >>>>> company. >>>> >>>> your loss. by doing so, you give up a significant amount of extremely >>>> useful software, some of which has no replacement. >>> >>> There is nothing I need or want that I cannot get for my GNU/Linux >>> system. >> >> You mean there's a mobile version that runs on cell phones? > > Now there's an interesting idea. Certainly many cell phones today > have the capability to run Linux. Personally I would find it a total > crackup to fire up a C shell on a cell phone. > Andro�d is based on a Linux core: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) -- Bertrand
From: Atheist Chaplain on 5 Jul 2010 04:59
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:040720101942421031%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <4c313dce$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, Atheist Chaplain > <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote: > >> >> > the iphone has a usenet app, and contrary to your beliefs, apple >> >> > doesn't control what people do with iphones. >> >> >> >> just what they can install :-) >> > >> > nope. >> > >> > they only control is what is available on the store. companies can >> > deploy apps directly to employees without going through the store and >> > users can do the same to their own devices if they are so motivated. >> > web apps don't go through the store at all, and can be used on any >> > iphone (or other mobile device for that matter). >> > >> > and it isn't just apple. microsoft windows phone 7 will also have a >> > single store and sell only approved apps. google can (and has) removed >> > apps and can even install apps without the user's consent. >> >> you really need to read and understand the current restrictive EULA from >> Apple :-) > > i have read it. > > it seems you need to read it, and also learn about how iphone apps are > developed and deployed. > > and you are completely ignoring microsoft, who essentially has the same > restrictions. why is it ok for them but not apple? > >> doing ANYTHING that is not approved by them is not only leaving yourself >> open to litigation but they can point blank refuse to service or repair >> your >> shitty iPhone as well. > > nonsense. where do people come up with this stuff? open to litigation > for what? > > yes they can refuse to repair a jailbroken phone under warranty, but > that's no different than if you made an unauthorized modification to > any other product. it's also possible to just restore stock firmware > and wipe all traces of jailbrokeness. > > modify a nikon or canon camera and see how well that works out for you. > remove the infrared cut filter and they will no longer warrant it, > although the company that made the infrared mod might. if you did it > yourself and something breaks, bummer. > > adjust the autofocus calibration then send it in to 'fix it' after you > screw it up, see how well *that* works out. > > even something as minor as using a third party battery can void a > warranty (read the agreement), although it may be impossible to > determine unless the camera explodes with parts of the third party > battery melted inside. canon even displayed non-canon batteries at > trade shows to show how dangerous it could be (and to sell their > batteries). > >> using un-approved apps on the phone is one of those restrictions, sure, >> you >> may be able to install it but doing so voids your warranty and can cost >> you >> big dollars in legal costs if Apple decides to be petulant, and its not >> like >> they have been above that in the past. > > complete nonsense. > > there are legitimate methods of installing apps that are not submitted > to the apps store, including remote deployment for enterprise as well > as web apps, some of which can remain resident on the device and not > need the web to be used. > > jailbreaking does void the warranty, but there are no legal costs > unless you do something stupid to justify it, and jailbreaking isn't > one of them. I just love to see the fanbois turn themselves inside out :-) And maybe when your rose coloured glasses fade a bit you might want to read the restrictions placed on app developers, but then I think you might have some comprehension issues to work out first. -- [This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International] "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi |