From: nospam on
In article <4c319ee0$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, Atheist Chaplain
<abused(a)cia.gov> wrote:

> I just love to see the fanbois turn themselves inside out :-)

i just love to see the bashers make up bullshit just to bash.

everything i said is factual, nothing inside out about it.

not to mention that when other companies do exactly the same thing,
they turn a blind eye, i.e., microsoft.

> And maybe when your rose coloured glasses fade a bit you might want to read
> the restrictions placed on app developers, but then I think you might have
> some comprehension issues to work out first.

since i *am* an app developer, i'm well aware of the restrictions and
what can and cannot be done.

have you written any apps for the iphone, or android for that matter?

go see what it's like to develop for nintendo if you want to see what
restrictions really means, or verizon's brew platform.
From: Atheist Chaplain on
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <4c319ee0$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, Atheist Chaplain
> <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote:
>
>> I just love to see the fanbois turn themselves inside out :-)
>
> i just love to see the bashers make up bullshit just to bash.
>
> everything i said is factual, nothing inside out about it.
>
> not to mention that when other companies do exactly the same thing,
> they turn a blind eye, i.e., microsoft.
>

Completely wrong, Microsoft fart and they get blamed for hurricanes, Apple
tighten the reigns on what constitutes a breach of the EULA in just about
every product they sell, or blame their shitty design on the way the end
user holds a device and no one bats an eye.
Apple has been a closed shop for so long and have done it so well that there
are British Union organisers queuing up to take lessons from them.

>> And maybe when your rose coloured glasses fade a bit you might want to
>> read
>> the restrictions placed on app developers, but then I think you might
>> have
>> some comprehension issues to work out first.
>
> since i *am* an app developer, i'm well aware of the restrictions and
> what can and cannot be done.
>

name an app you have developed

> have you written any apps for the iphone, or android for that matter?
>

No, but is that somehow important ??

> go see what it's like to develop for nintendo if you want to see what
> restrictions really means, or verizon's brew platform.


why the diversion ??
we are talking about the restrictive practices and EULA that Apple impose on
the end user.



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From: nospam on
In article <4c32d5bd(a)news.x-privat.org>, Atheist Chaplain
<abused(a)cia.gov> wrote:

> Completely wrong, Microsoft fart and they get blamed for hurricanes, Apple
> tighten the reigns on what constitutes a breach of the EULA in just about
> every product they sell, or blame their shitty design on the way the end
> user holds a device and no one bats an eye.

then why don't you hear anyone complaining about windows phone 7? it
has many of the same restrictions as the iphone, including a single
apps store with app approvals. or how current windows mobile users are
orphaned?

> Apple has been a closed shop for so long and have done it so well that there
> are British Union organisers queuing up to take lessons from them.

that must be why large parts of os x and the kernel itself are open
source. or why webkit is open source and used by competitors, including
google, hp/palm and nokia. because apple is closed.

> > have you written any apps for the iphone, or android for that matter?
>
> No, but is that somehow important ??

yes it is important. if you aren't developing for the iphone or even
for one of its competitors, it's not likely you know much about what is
involved in writing and deploying apps for any of the various
platforms, other than the usual soundbites which are not always
completely accurate.

> > go see what it's like to develop for nintendo if you want to see what
> > restrictions really means, or verizon's brew platform.
>
> why the diversion ??
> we are talking about the restrictive practices and EULA that Apple impose on
> the end user.

it's not a diversion. other companies are *much* more restrictive.
From: Atheist Chaplain on
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <4c32d5bd(a)news.x-privat.org>, Atheist Chaplain
> <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote:
>
>> Completely wrong, Microsoft fart and they get blamed for hurricanes,
>> Apple
>> tighten the reigns on what constitutes a breach of the EULA in just about
>> every product they sell, or blame their shitty design on the way the end
>> user holds a device and no one bats an eye.
>
> then why don't you hear anyone complaining about windows phone 7?

so where can I get a Windows 7 phone right now ??

>it
> has many of the same restrictions as the iphone, including a single
> apps store with app approvals. or how current windows mobile users are
> orphaned?
>
>> Apple has been a closed shop for so long and have done it so well that
>> there
>> are British Union organisers queuing up to take lessons from them.
>
> that must be why large parts of os x and the kernel itself are open
> source. or why webkit is open source and used by competitors, including
> google, hp/palm and nokia. because apple is closed.
>

So where are the other system manufacturers, Oh that's right, as soon as
Jobs got his old job back he killed them stone cold dead without so much as
a "Thanks, but no thanks"

>> > have you written any apps for the iphone, or android for that matter?
>>
>> No, but is that somehow important ??
>
> yes it is important. if you aren't developing for the iphone or even
> for one of its competitors, it's not likely you know much about what is
> involved in writing and deploying apps for any of the various
> platforms, other than the usual soundbites which are not always
> completely accurate.
>

Again, your having a problem comprehending, I don't need to write apps to be
able to read an EULA.
so, you snipped the question, what apps have you developed.


>> > go see what it's like to develop for nintendo if you want to see what
>> > restrictions really means, or verizon's brew platform.
>>
>> why the diversion ??
>> we are talking about the restrictive practices and EULA that Apple impose
>> on
>> the end user.
>
> it's not a diversion. other companies are *much* more restrictive.

again for the comprehension challenged, we are not talking about other
companies.

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From: SneakyP on
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in
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> In article
> <a51dd544-a9c6-495b-95f5-30240b154883(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> Rich <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > > Does the iPhone not have one? �Is it something Apple can't
>> > > control so they banned it?
>> >
>> > the iphone has a usenet app, and contrary to your beliefs, apple
>> > doesn't control what people do with iphones.
>>
>> Just with the iPad then?
>
> nope. apple doesn't control what users do with any apple product.
>

But it sounds like they want to. It's just like camera gear- anything
to make things more costly, I suppose. For instance, Nikon lenses and
Canon lenses are not interchangeable obviously but so too are not the
supposedly "compatible" stuff after a few years (3rd party makes that are
foiled by new designs of Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc...)

Proprietary stuff just keeps them changing so you have to buy from the
specific maker for their own products.


Just my RANT on things.

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